The squeaky wheel gets the oil

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  • Remi Moses
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 14785

    #16
    Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

    Originally posted by chef
    Was he a Dogs supporter as a kid?
    Pretty sure I read in the local paper he barracks for Collingwood.
    Think you'll find a relative played there,but they're going to have a few apples fall out of the tree.

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    • The Bulldogs Bite
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11271

      #17
      Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

      After the honeymoon period of 3-4 years wears off, and if these clubs are still average, there's going to be opportunities to snare a few players IMO.

      The love affair of playing for the 'new clubs' will wear thin if they are going absolutely nowhere, and drawing small crowds. No doubt there would be players who would then look to move to successful clubs with a genuine history and supporter base. The 'go home' factor could be strong in this area too.

      I don't think it's a given these two clubs will be dominating. I hope they both fail miserably.
      W00F!

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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #18
        Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

        Originally posted by Sedat
        I thought our Head of Football Operations and CEO said in the media late last year they they would demand band 1 compensation for Ward. That went well....

        It is a disgrace that Scully is deemed to be twice the player that Ward is according to the AFL's foolproof system of compensating clubs for losing out of contract players. Don Lane's wheel would have more credibility if it was the mechanism used to evaluate compensation.


        The squeaky wheel of fortune you reckon Sedat?

        Sorry to blind you all with this.
        Last edited by Ghost Dog; 26-03-2012, 05:51 PM.
        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #19
          Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

          Originally posted by Sedat
          It is a disgrace that Scully is deemed to be twice the player that Ward is according to the AFL's foolproof system of compensating clubs for losing out of contract players.
          Scully isn't even necessarily once the player that Ward is at this point. As I've said before and will say again, repeatedly, Scully has done f-all as an AFL player -- wasn't even the best player at a rubbish team that hasn't made finals in half a decade.

          Ridiculous that he was rated the same level as Gablett Jr, the best player of a multiple premiership team.

          You know, I actually think Ward's compo was correct, it's just that Scully's compo was so completely wrong that it makes it an injustice, and only happened because of his 'profile'. It's like giving out compo based on Mike Sheahan's player ratings (ie. rubbish).

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #20
            Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

            I can see why Bert was called moon face. It's huge.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66856

              #21
              Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

              Originally posted by Chops
              I can see why Bert was called moon face. It's huge.
              Even bigger than Ernie Sigley
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              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10169

                #22
                Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

                It would have been good if they'd had some further compensation options, perhaps a first and second round pick directly after our selections would have been more appropriate.

                As it is, I can't see the AFL doing a backflip on it.
                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #23
                  Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

                  Melbourne complained so they level 1 compensation. We should have kicked a huge stink but didn't so hence the thread title.

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                  • westdog54
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6686

                    #24
                    Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

                    Originally posted by Chops
                    Melbourne complained so they level 1 compensation. We should have kicked a huge stink but didn't so hence the thread title.
                    Did they?

                    All I recall is Scully's compensation being higher because his contract was astronomical.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #25
                      Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

                      Originally posted by westdog54
                      Did they?

                      All I recall is Scully's compensation being higher because his contract was astronomical.
                      Of course they did. All we heard throughout was how he might leave and no. 1 pick.

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                      • Topdog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7471

                        #26
                        Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

                        Originally posted by GVGjr

                        I'm not sure that because he led out the side and then kicked the first goal is really a consideration into what compensation we should have received.
                        Kicking the first goal...of course not. However being chosen as captain of the club is a fair indicator that GWS rated Callan ahead of Scully.

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                        • Ghost Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 9404

                          #27
                          Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

                          Isn't this crying over spilt milk? It's done and dusted now.
                          If every single bulldog fan had signed a petition - do you think the outcome would have been any different?
                          I'm not sure what else we could have done.
                          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7471

                            #28
                            Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

                            Actually been strong ala Geelong and Melbourne

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                            • Sedat
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 11278

                              #29
                              Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

                              Our leaders went the denial option in the media all last year and did not even contemplate the prospect of Ward having signed with GWS until about Round 23. Only then when the bleeding obvious was apparent did they come out with some feeble 'demand' for band 1 compensation for Ward in the media. It was a hollow threat that the AFL rightly took no notice of. End result - we were passive and feeble in our media dealings on the issue (especially compared to Melbourne), and we did not make enough noise about the compensation issue. GWS actually felt a little guilty and threw in Reid as a sweetener - I can't think of any reason other than guilt to explain why they would agree to giving up a 3rd round pick for a player about to be delisted.
                              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                              • Drunken Bum
                                Rookie List
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 435

                                #30
                                Re: The squeaky wheel gets the oil

                                Originally posted by Sedat
                                I can't think of any reason other than guilt to explain why they would agree to giving up a 3rd round pick for a player about to be delisted.
                                Apart from the fact they never gave up a third round pick, the only thing they gave up was a spot on their list, which they have plenty of mind you, the third round pick was plucked from thin air along with all the other compensation picks.
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