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  • The Underdog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2007
    • 6930

    #16
    Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

    My favourite quote from Demetriou from the AFL story - http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsartic...8/default.aspx was the following

    "It was an unacceptable conversation notwithstanding the fact it was not supposed to appear in the public domain," said Demetriou of the conversation between Thomas and Mifsud.

    Sounds suspiciously like Rendell's comment which was made in a private conversation but somehow made it into the public domain.
    This whole episode has been an absolute embarrassment for the AFL administration. Pure farce.
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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 67298

      #17
      Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      I disagree.
      If the AFL feel strongly enough on an issue to contact the President of a club and inform him to sack the recruiting manager then they must display an impeccable record on the people they employ and the standards they are expected to meet.
      Clearly they don't employ the same standards to their own people as they do for the clubs.
      One big difference between Rendell and Misfud is Misfud came out and apologised and took full responsibility.

      Like Grant, Mifsud should have checked the story first before believing it.
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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #18
        Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

        Originally posted by bornadog
        One big difference between Rendell and Misfud is Misfud came out and apologised and took full responsibility.

        Like Grant, Mifsud should have checked the story first before believing it.
        Don't get it. Why would Misfud make up something like that?
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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 67298

          #19
          Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
          Don't get it. Why would Misfud make up something like that?
          He didn't make it up he was told from another source which turned out to be a rumour. He should have contacted Melbourne and asked if the rumour was correct.
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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 45023

            #20
            Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

            Originally posted by bornadog
            One big difference between Rendell and Misfud is Misfud came out and apologised and took full responsibility.

            Like Grant, Mifsud should have checked the story first before believing it.
            Did he take responsibility for taking so long to even mention what Rendell said?
            Has he apologised for letting down Indigenous players by not bringing Rendells comments to light in the days following rather than the weeks following?

            My view is that he only took responsibility for leaking the information to Thomas because he was simply caught out.

            He's gossiping with his mates rather than doing his job and I can't see why clubs would now want him talking to the players or the coaches. He's simply not doing the right thing by the Indigenous players or the AFL. Rendell was publicly bounced out of his job and ridiculed for saying the wrong thing and yet for some reason those same people that were so critical of Rendell are giving Mifsud a free passage by not holding him to the same standards.

            Given your stance on Rendell I'm surprised you don't have a stronger view on Mifsuds lack of judgement. If Rendells position was untenable then surely Mifsuds is.
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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 67298

              #21
              Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Did he take responsibility for taking so long to even mention what Rendell said?
              Has he apologised for letting down Indigenous players by not bringing Rendells comments to light in the days following rather than the weeks following?

              My view is that he only took responsibility for leaking the information to Thomas because he was simply caught out.

              He's gossiping with his mates rather than doing his job and I can't see why clubs would now want him talking to the players or the coaches. He's simply not doing the right thing by the Indigenous players or the AFL. Rendell was publicly bounced out of his job and ridiculed for saying the wrong thing and yet for some reason those same people that were so critical of Rendell are giving Mifsud a free passage by not holding him to the same standards.

              Given your stance on Rendell I'm surprised you don't have a stronger view on Mifsuds lack of judgement. If Rendells position was untenable then surely Mifsuds is.
              I think Mifsuds position is untenable and he will not be trusted by clubs. He should resign or move to a different role.
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              • Sedat
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2007
                • 11440

                #22
                Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                Did he take responsibility for taking so long to even mention what Rendell said?
                Has he apologised for letting down Indigenous players by not bringing Rendells comments to light in the days following rather than the weeks following?

                My view is that he only took responsibility for leaking the information to Thomas because he was simply caught out.

                He's gossiping with his mates rather than doing his job and I can't see why clubs would now want him talking to the players or the coaches. He's simply not doing the right thing by the Indigenous players or the AFL. Rendell was publicly bounced out of his job and ridiculed for saying the wrong thing and yet for some reason those same people that were so critical of Rendell are giving Mifsud a free passage by not holding him to the same standards.

                Given your stance on Rendell I'm surprised you don't have a stronger view on Mifsuds lack of judgement. If Rendells position was untenable then surely Mifsuds is.
                100% correct GVGjr. Mifsud now cannot be trusted in his role and his position is untenable. He, ably assisted by Vlad, has done more harm than good for the indigenous community that he is supposed to be protecting the welfare of.

                I love the way that Grant Thomas has given acute public embarrasment to Vlad and his groupthink cronies in this instance - he is the only scribe that is prepared to take the AFL to task, meanwhile all the other scribes cower in fear of losing ther precious AFL accreditation. The very people that the AFL are supposed to protect the welfare of, the indigenous players, are now all suspicious and distrusting of Mifsud and the AFL - nice work Vlad

                Fact is AD could not give a stuff about indigenous player welfare - all he cares about is window dressing to give the perception that he gives a toss. I originally thought it was a brilliant, albeit cynical and contrived, strategy by the AFL to offer Rendell a position. But now that Mifsud has been outed as the source of Thomas' Neeld accusations, I am laughing heartily at seeing Vlad squirm in the glare of the cameras, over a series of incidents all of which have been entirely self-induced. Adelaide and Trigg come out of this just as poorly for pulling he trigger so quickly on Rendell (that's if you care to believe that Vlad had nothing to do with Rendell's sacking )
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                • Topdog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7471

                  #23
                  Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

                  former players now getting involved.

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                  • westdog54
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6686

                    #24
                    Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

                    Originally posted by Sedat
                    I love the way that Grant Thomas has given acute public embarrasment to Vlad and his groupthink cronies in this instance - he is the only scribe that is prepared to take the AFL to task, meanwhile all the other scribes cower in fear of losing ther precious AFL accreditation. The very people that the AFL are supposed to protect the welfare of, the indigenous players, are now all suspicious and distrusting of Mifsud and the AFL - nice work Vlad
                    The problem is though, Grant was wrong on this one. He might be prepared to take the AFL to task but he has to get his facts straight otherwise he's going to get himself in some serious strife.

                    The whole thing has become a right mess and Mifsud has some bridges to re-build.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 45023

                      #25
                      Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      I think Mifsuds position is untenable and he will not be trusted by clubs. He should resign or move to a different role.
                      His position should have been untenable when Rendell was bounced but that clearly wasn't on your radar then and your focus was fully on Rendell. Was leaking the inaccurate information about Neeld the final straw in your comment above because I think originally you were supportive of Mifsud?

                      In my opinion a lot of people took the easy option when this first surfaced and just potted Rendell and in the process refused to look at the issue a bit deeper especially the timing of when the comments were made by Rendell and when the AFL eventually stepped in and contacted Trigg.
                      Apparently Mifsud was so appalled by Rendells he mentioned it to no one at the AFL for weeks eventually blurting it out to the Age in an interview which got the ball rolling. If he didn't do that interview do you think it would have surfaced by now?

                      The fact that Mifsud has now offered his resignation and the AFL refused to accept it is clearly a token image saving gesture designed to show that Mifsud has standards. If Mifsud was genuine he would just resign and not offer his resignation.
                      Vlad is guilty of holding others to high standards but finding a bit harder to apply it in house.
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                      • Desipura
                        WOOF Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 4344

                        #26
                        Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

                        If Aaron Davey was the player that went to Mifsud, should his position within the club be questioned?
                        Demetriou will not remove Mifsud as it puts him directly in the spotlight. People will question his decision to remove Rendell.
                        No surprise Demetriou is deflecting attention and putting the spotlight directly onto Thomas.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67298

                          #27
                          Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

                          Originally posted by Desipura
                          If Aaron Davey was the player that went to Mifsud, should his position within the club be questioned?
                          Demetriou will not remove Mifsud as it puts him directly in the spotlight. People will question his decision to remove Rendell.
                          No surprise Demetriou is deflecting attention and putting the spotlight directly onto Thomas.
                          I can't help but think that we do not know the full story.
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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 67298

                            #28
                            Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            In my opinion a lot of people took the easy option when this first surfaced and just potted Rendell and in the process refused to look at the issue a bit deeper especially the timing of when the comments were made by Rendell and when the AFL eventually stepped in and contacted Trigg.
                            Apparently Mifsud was so appalled by Rendells he mentioned it to no one at the AFL for weeks eventually blurting it out to the Age in an interview which got the ball rolling. If he didn't do that interview do you think it would have surfaced by now?

                            The fact that Mifsud has now offered his resignation and the AFL refused to accept it is clearly a token image saving gesture designed to show that Mifsud has standards. If Mifsud was genuine he would just resign and not offer his resignation.
                            Vlad is guilty of holding others to high standards but finding a bit harder to apply it in house.
                            Doesn't matter when Rendell made the remarks and when they were reported, the fact is he made the remarks.
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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 45023

                              #29
                              Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Doesn't matter when Rendell made the remarks and when they were reported, the fact is he made the remarks.
                              You are missing the point. This isn't now about Rendell it's about how long it took Mifsud to bring it to the surface. Rendell paid for his my mistake but Mifsuds involvement just slipped under the radar while everyone took the easy option.
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                              • Topdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7471

                                #30
                                Re: Rendell given an AFL gig

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Doesn't matter when Rendell made the remarks and when they were reported, the fact is he made the remarks.
                                It matters because Misfud failed in his job and failed "his people".

                                Now AD is saying Neeld should sue Thomas. Massive LOLs to AD there. Nice deflection.

                                "It would be an appalling state of affairs for people to have private conversations only for so-called journalists to actually publish them without verifying those comments," Demetriou said.
                                Pretty much exactly what happened with Rendell and Misfud.

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