Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

This will end badly.

I would guess the AFL want Melbourne to keep their picks to help them become more competitive - bit will be compelled to punish them AND the Crows for cheating.

No idea where this all ends.

Yes it will for them both. There is no doubt that the AFL will make an example out of Adelaide & Melbourne. Harshly I expect.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

If they get sanctions it needs to be for first round draft picks. They should lose pick 4 this year and their first round pick and probably their 2nd pick for next season as a minimum.

This limits their ability to trade for players

A fine and a percentage reduction in the salary cap is also required.

The deals with Hogan and Viney might be void now.

Would we use pick 6 on Viney?

There has to be sanctions involved.
Regardless of Melbourne's plight, I think they should lose pick 4 and give up Hogan.

[Dry Rot]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

There has to be sanctions involved.
Regardless of Melbourne's plight, I think they should lose pick 4 and give up Hogan.

Re giving up Hogan, does GWS then still hang onto pick #3?

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Re giving up Hogan, does GWS then still hang onto pick #3?

i don't think any picks/trades/signings already completed will be voided. Pick 4 however i hope will be gone

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Hope Melbourne are punished to no end -- never been a fan.

[GVGjr]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Agree with most of what you've stated, though I think they should still pay the minimum salary cap at least. Not sure if it's fair to punish players at the club by not paying competitive wages.

I barely bothered with looking at Viney as he was always going to Melbourne. Isn't he supposed to be a bit of an animal and accumulator? What are his skills like?

I think they could cap it at 97.5% and make Melbourne re-work some contracts

[JohnGentStand]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Dean Bailey was portrayed as a man of principle and integrity. Forget the ' poor Dean' , ' he is a victim too' sentiment. If he ducked out and tanked to save his job then he is as bad as any. Throw the book. Bye-bye Dean.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Imagine being a player, doing well in a position, then being dragged or moved BECAUSE you are winning your position. How demoralizing.
I really REALLY hope they lose Todd Viney. Just desserts.
What a disgrace to the jumper. To all the players of past eras.

[jeemak]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

I think they could cap it at 97.5% and make Melbourne re-work some contracts

What's the minimum?

How do you rate Viney, do you think if available at pick six we'd take him? I'm not too fussed about recruiting players specifically for outside pace and clean skills as much as I am with getting sheer talent on to our list. I do think that if a player has got good foot skills and reasonable pace, matched with excellent ball reading ability that they could play an outside role if required. If we were to select Wines and Viney was available, would you take him and be resigned to allowing one to develop as a more outside user?

[China Dog]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Here's the first real test for our new President. Is he going to kick up a sh*t-storm over this and force the AFL to deal with the Dees before the National draft or are we going to sit back and just take it again?

The Dees should have to forfeit their first round picks in the draft and Viney and Hogan (in 2013) should both have to go back into the draft pool. We should move up to pick 4 and 5.

I'd love to think we will be all over this, but probably we'll be and complient do nothing.

[jeemak]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Dean Bailey was portrayed as a man of principle and integrity. Forget the ' poor Dean' , ' he is a victim too' sentiment. If he ducked out and tanked to save his job then he is as bad as any. Throw the book. Bye-bye Dean.

I'm not sure I've seen that. I've only seen him portrayed as a "dead man walking" and a fall guy.

It's easy to take the high road in this instance and state you'd have behaved differently than Bailey. The reality is though, many clubs have done what Melbourne did in those years, they're just unfortunate (read stupid) they've let too many people in to the circle of knowledge and as a result they've come unstuck.

He'll likely have the book thrown at him, though as an untried coach trying to build credibility in an industry where tanking had become common practice not following instructions would have been career suicide.

[GVGjr]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

What's the minimum?

How do you rate Viney, do you think if available at pick six we'd take him? I'm not too fussed about recruiting players specifically for outside pace and clean skills as much as I am with getting sheer talent on to our list. I do think that if a player has got good foot skills and reasonable pace, matched with excellent ball reading ability that they could play an outside role if required. If we were to select Wines and Viney was available, would you take him and be resigned to allowing one to develop as a more outside user?

I think the minimum is something like 94%

Viney is an excellent player and I'd be very interested in him with one of our early picks despite him being an inside midfielder.

I'm not worried about potentially losing him down the track either.

[jeemak]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

I think the minimum is something like 94%

Viney is an excellent player and I'd be very interested in him with one of our early picks despite him being an inside midfielder.

I'm not worried about potentially losing him down the track either.

I think once at the club, and having Melbourne as a distant memory after two years we'd be able to hang on to him. If heavy sanctions were imposed on Melbourne you could be assured that a few players would want out, in lieu of them being unlikely to be successful for a while. I couldn't see them being an attractive proposition for potential recruits.

[Bornadog]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Its getting worse as the evidence builds up:

We tried to stop tanking

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Melbourne were only doing what the AFL were encouraging. If the AFL were so concerned that tanking might happen, why did they give such a massive benefit for doing it.

I'm going by memory here, but other than one or two times when teams eligible for priority picks played each other, no team ever just missed out on a priority pick by one win. What an amazing coincidence.