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  • westdog54
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6683

    #16
    Re: Izzy gone?

    Originally posted by always right
    I'm simply questioning the assertion that he was never going to make it. I for one never thought I'd see Mike Pyke play in a premiership side and he never played Aussie Rules as a youngster either. As for how much Folau was paid...that's a different matter.
    Mike Pyke played as a lock forward in rugby so he would have needed to be strong and have good hands overhead to contest lineouts, plus his fitness base would have needed to be reasonably high as forwards don't always have the luxury of being subbed in the second half, so he had a bit of a head start in terms of skill set when compared to Israel.

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    • always right
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 4189

      #17
      Re: Izzy gone?

      Originally posted by westdog54
      Mike Pyke played as a lock forward in rugby so he would have needed to be strong and have good hands overhead to contest lineouts, plus his fitness base would have needed to be reasonably high as forwards don't always have the luxury of being subbed in the second half, so he had a bit of a head start in terms of skill set when compared to Israel.
      Did you watch Folau play Rugby League? He was known for his overhead skills when the ball was kicked high to him. Many commentators claimed he had skills that might help him move over to AFL.

      As for Pyke...I would have thought his biggest challenge was what many newcomers to Aussie Rules discover....reading the play is difficult.
      I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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      • westdog54
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6683

        #18
        Re: Izzy gone?

        Originally posted by always right
        Did you watch Folau play Rugby League? He was known for his overhead skills when the ball was kicked high to him. Many commentators claimed he had skills that might help him move over to AFL.

        As for Pyke...I would have thought his biggest challenge was what many newcomers to Aussie Rules discover....reading the play is difficult.
        The difference is that Folau was so vastly superior in that field that semi-reasonable skills overhead got him through. Pyke was competing in the air against blokes that were probably better than him.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #19
          Re: Izzy gone?

          Originally posted by Remi Moses
          Five Words
          What a waste of money!
          Do we really believe this was anything but a gimmick.
          They're rusted on NRL up there and Falou or not was never going to sway them.
          Originally posted by GVGjr
          What chance are GWS to be clearing salary cap space for Tippet?
          Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Izzy was paid with AFL start up money issued to the new club for their marketing and Advertising? I always thought it was clever since they got far more exposure putting it into poaching a high profile NRL player rather than spending it on billboards, news papers an tv commercials.
          Also not sure, but being a first year player i thought he doesn't come under salary cap restrictions? Hence this wouldn't be a "cap clearing" exercise?

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 43892

            #20
            Re: Izzy gone?

            Originally posted by HairyMidget
            Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Izzy was paid with AFL start up money issued to the new club for their marketing and Advertising? I always thought it was clever since they got far more exposure putting it into poaching a high profile NRL player rather than spending it on billboards, news papers an tv commercials.
            Also not sure, but being a first year player i thought he doesn't come under salary cap restrictions? Hence this wouldn't be a "cap clearing" exercise?
            Some of his money was via the AFL but I still think a decent amount was under the salary cap of GWS.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • Bulldog Revolution
              Coaching Staff
              • Dec 2006
              • 3922

              #21
              Re: Izzy gone?

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Some of his money was via the AFL but I still think a decent amount was under the salary cap of GWS.
              The GWS CEO said that only Folaus senior games played counted against the cap, so it may not give them much cap relief but its still operating money that they can better use to get on field improvement.

              Regardless I think Tippett will end up at GWS and they really are building a powerhouse

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