Milne Charged

[LostDoggy]

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Which is a complete farce. Criminals walking the streets, innocent people with a black mark on their names.

Tell me you don't get frustrated with the time these things take.

So they should delay other cases, many of which would be as serious or more than Milne's, because he's a footballer? And when they don't, it's a “farce”? Perhaps I misunderstand you, but that sounds ludicrous to me.

Stephen Milne, in the eyes of the law, is Stephen Milne. That's it. They shouldn't (and probably don't) give a toss about his celebrity profile.

[boydogs]

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So they should delay other cases, many of which would be as serious or more than Milne's, because he's a footballer? And when they don't, it's a “farce”? Perhaps I misunderstand you, but that sounds ludicrous to me.

Nobody should have a rape charge hanging over their head for more than a week.

[Greystache]

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Nobody should have a rape charge hanging over their head for more than a week.

So the prosecution and defence lawyers should have one week to prepare a case? And a judge the same to read through all the facts of a case before the trial starts? That's completely unrealistic.

I don't think you understand the amount or the complexity of information that goes into a court trial.

[LostDoggy]

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Even if he isn't guilty, he'll undeservedly have a black mark next to his name in the eyes of many people.
He basically has for the last 9 years anyway.

[boydogs]

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So the prosecution and defence lawyers should have one week to prepare a case? And a judge the same to read through all the facts of a case before the trial starts? That's completely unrealistic.

I don't think you understand the amount or the complexity of information that goes into a court trial.

This is getting off topic, but the legal process is in dire need of simplification. Delays before a case is heard and cases being decided by who runs out of money to appeal first isn't my idea of justice.

[LostDoggy]

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This is getting off topic, but the legal process is in dire need of simplification. Delays before a case is heard and cases being decided by who runs out of money to appeal first isn't my idea of justice.

I'm no lawyer, but my partner is a criminal barrister, mostly doing prosecution work, and I can tell you, it's a shitload of work. She brings home folders with two reams of paper to read through, is working all hours of the night, and isn't nearly senior enough to be handling rape and murder charges on a regular basis (although she has done a few).

Her last rape case took her an entire month to put together the evidence, and from recollection she lost it.

Rape is a very difficult crime to convict on, and is an incredibly complex issue in itself. You have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there was no consent. In our society, there is always a reasonable doubt in the minds of juries.

[bulldogtragic]

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This is getting off topic, but the legal process is in dire need of simplification. Delays before a case is heard and cases being decided by who runs out of money to appeal first isn't my idea of justice.

I think we should go back to ye olde times. That is, if Milne weighs the same as a duck he's a rapist. Easier to burn him at the stake then.

[Bornadog]

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rape charges dropped but

Former St Kilda footballer Stephen Milne has formally had three rape charges discontinued.But Milne has pleaded guilty to one count of indecent assault, an offence that carries a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/ra...#ixzz3IFhQL8O3

[Happy Days]

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"I kept saying no, but he kept putting it in"

That is horrible. This is all horrible.

I bet Milne has never been more grateful to have been good at footy. Disgusting.

Almost as disgusting as the hot takes and victim blaming discourse a lot of the media and virtually all of the general public has taken up pretty much since it happened. Does Malthouse get his fine money back now?

[Murphy'sLore]

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Anna Krien's Night Games is an excellent discussion of the intersections between sport, masculinity, sex and power. She talks about the Milne incident in some detail. Well worth a read. It's just been shortlisted for a UK sports writing prize, not the usual subject matter I wouldn't think.

[Bornadog]

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"I kept saying no, but he kept putting it in"

That is horrible. This is all horrible.

I bet Milne has never been more grateful to have been good at footy. Disgusting.

Almost as disgusting as the hot takes and victim blaming discourse a lot of the media and virtually all of the general public has taken up pretty much since it happened. Does Malthouse get his fine money back now?

Couldn't agree more.

I wrote this some time ago on WOOF.

Back some 10 years ago, I was on a plane returning from Sydney on a Sunday morning and the Saints players were also boarding after playing Sydney the previous night. A Saints player who shall remain nameless, talking to another about a girl. Basically it was about his sexual exploitations, which I believe were not above board. The other player said, what are you going to do about it, and he said pay her $5k to keep her mouth shut.

There are some weird cultural issues down there.

[Remi Moses]

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Interesting the news service went with " Milne's rape case dropped"
And the almost afterthought of " pleaded guilty" to indecent assault
What a grubby little s*** he is

[Sedat]

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Does Malthouse get his fine money back now?

He needed to call him a "f***ing indecent assaulter" if he wanted his money back.

[The Underdog]

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Anna Krien's Night Games is an excellent discussion of the intersections between sport, masculinity, sex and power. She talks about the Milne incident in some detail. Well worth a read. It's just been shortlisted for a UK sports writing prize, not the usual subject matter I wouldn't think.

Yeah I agree. Certainly food for thought and points to a massive need for culture change in the attitude to women across men's sports.

[LostDoggy]

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Yeah I agree. Certainly food for thought and points to a massive need for culture change in the attitude to women across men's sports.

Across mens pursuits of all kinds. Women too. Society as a whole.