MVP Awards

[Bornadog]

Can G Ablett take it out for a 5th time?

See all nominations for various awards here

Bulldogs up are:

MVP Player - Ryan Griffen, Tom Liberatore, Will Minson
Most Courageous - Daniel Cross
Best First year player - Brett Goodes
Best Captain - all are nominated

Under 22 squad - Jordon Roughead, Libba, Dahl,

[Topdog]

Re: MVP Awards

Yes he can

[Greystache]

Re: MVP Awards

Griffen finished 6th

LEIGH MATTHEWS TROPHY
Gary Ablett (GCS) 1479 votes
Joel Selwood (GEE) 475
Jarryd Roughead (HAW) 378
Scott Pendlebury (COL) 321
Kieren Jack (SYD) 201
Ryan Griffen (WB) 177
Daniel Hannebery (SYD) 174
Patrick Dangerfield (ADE) 172
Dane Swan (COL) 137
Nathan Fyfe (FRE) 118

AFL MOST COURAGEOUS
Joel Selwood (GEE) 234 votes
Daniel Hannebery (SYD) 153
Rory Sloane (ADE) 74
Callan Ward (GWS) 55
Kade Simpson (CAR) 54

AFL BEST CAPTAIN
Joel Selwood (GEE) 172 votes
Gary Ablett (GCS) 115
Jobe Watson (ESS) 110
Luke Hodge (HAW) 102
Travis Boak (PTA) 81

AFL BEST FIRST YEAR PLAYER
Jaeger O Meara (GCS) 533 votes
Oliver Wines (PTA) 45
Brad Crouch (ADE) 37
Sam Dwyer (COL) 28
Dane Rampe (SYD) 24

[azabob]

Re: MVP Awards

Griffen finished 6th

LEIGH MATTHEWS TROPHY
Gary Ablett (GCS) 1479 votes
Joel Selwood (GEE) 475
Jarryd Roughead (HAW) 378
Scott Pendlebury (COL) 321
Kieren Jack (SYD) 201
Ryan Griffen (WB) 177
Daniel Hannebery (SYD) 174
Patrick Dangerfield (ADE) 172
Dane Swan (COL) 137
Nathan Fyfe (FRE) 118

Correct me if Im wrong, but this award is voted on by players? Either way Griffen should be extremely proud of his effort this season.

[Scorlibo]

Re: MVP Awards

The MVP awards are a joke, players simply go on media hearsay.

[Greystache]

Re: MVP Awards

Correct me if Im wrong, but this award is voted on by players? Either way Griffen should be extremely proud of his effort this season.

Yep. Basically they vote 3, 2,1 on their team mates, then vote 3, 2, 1 from a list of 50 odd nominated players from outside their club. Some consider it a more accurate reflection of the true best player that year rather than the highest media profiled midfielder award the Brownlow has become.

[always right]

Re: MVP Awards

The MVP awards are a joke, players simply go on media hearsay.

What do you base this statement on?

[Scorlibo]

Re: MVP Awards

Yep. Basically they vote 3, 2,1 on their team mates, then vote 3, 2, 1 from a list of 50 odd nominated players from outside their club. Some consider it a more accurate reflection of the true best player that year rather than the highest media profiled midfielder award the Brownlow has become.

You're well off the mark here. History will tell you that the Brownlow regularly goes to players who don't receive much media attention/are not favourites (Judd 04, Bartel 07, Cooney 08). The Players MVP on the other hand can be predicted, almost without fail, by following the media discourse during the year. If Players were asked to vote at the end of each game it would carry more weight, but given they give votes to 3 players as a summary of a season they haven't seen much of, it's an absolute farce of an award. The Coaches' Award is so much more deserving of praise.

[Greystache]

Re: MVP Awards

You're well off the mark here. History will tell you that the Brownlow regularly goes to players who don't receive much media attention/are not favourites (Judd 04, Bartel 07, Cooney 08). The Players MVP on the other hand can be predicted, almost without fail, by following the media discourse during the year. If Players were asked to vote at the end of each game it would carry more weight, but given they give votes to 3 players as a summary of a season they haven't seen much of, it's an absolute farce of an award. The Coaches' Award is so much more deserving of praise.

Didn't Gary Ablett average the highest Supercoach rating in 2013? Surely that's definitive proof the award is spot on.

[Scorlibo]

Re: MVP Awards

Didn't Gary Ablett average the highest Supercoach rating in 2013? Surely that's definitive proof the award is spot on.

A sardonic approach to supercoach scores and how they relate to the topic at hand seems to be your stock standard response these days to arguments you don't have the capacity for reason to participate in. Grow up GS.

[Greystache]

Re: MVP Awards

A sardonic approach to supercoach scores and how they relate to the topic at hand seems to be your stock standard response these days to arguments you don't have the capacity for reason to participate in. Grow up GS.

I'm confused, I've been informed by people who assure me they know better that Supercoach is the only accurate way to measure the performance of a player. Seeing as the MVP award reflects that measure it stands to reason it must be a valid award and not a joke. If only I had the capacity to understand the concept, but alas I'm also reliably informed I don't.

[Bornadog]

Re: MVP Awards

You're well off the mark here. History will tell you that the Brownlow regularly goes to players who don't receive much media attention/are not favourites (Judd 04, Bartel 07, Cooney 08). The Players MVP on the other hand can be predicted, almost without fail, by following the media discourse during the year. If Players were asked to vote at the end of each game it would carry more weight, but given they give votes to 3 players as a summary of a season they haven't seen much of, it's an absolute farce of an award. The Coaches' Award is so much more deserving of praise.

This year the players voted on line for the first time. It would be better if the players voted every week, but i guess logistically, the players association is not set up to do so. Maybe with the online capability now in place, they may be able to change this in the future.

[Scorlibo]

Re: MVP Awards

I'm confused, I've been informed by people who assure me they know better that Supercoach is the only accurate way to measure the performance of a player.

Not something I've ever said.

Seeing as the MVP award reflects that measure it stands to reason it must be a valid award and not a joke.

It reflects the media consensus. That doesn't mean it's always wrong, just that it's founded on a farcical basis. The same as copying the answer of the person next to you in a test, the answer could well be correct but the method of arriving at that answer is wrong and doesn't teach you anything.

[Scorlibo]

Re: MVP Awards

This year the players voted on line for the first time. It would be better if the players voted every week, but i guess logistically, the players association is not set up to do so. Maybe with the online capability now in place, they may be able to change this in the future.

To be honest I would prefer if the award didn't exist. Let the players be players, leave the discourse to the plethora of media commentators. If it has to exist, it would be better for the players to vote at the end of each match and like you say, perhaps that could be facilitated online. The thing is, and this is one of my main concerns, the players by and large probably don't care enough about who is the best player in the game. If they don't want to be voting in the first place, they sure won't want to vote every week.

[Scraggers]

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Did i read somewhere that Matty Boyd won an award last night?