The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

    Once upon a time having Assistant Coach to Mick Malthouse on your resume was a ticket to a senior appointment. Is today officially the end of the empire?

    - Watters: Sacked
    - Neeld: Sacked
    - Scott: Under achieved
    - Buckley: Under achieved
    - Laidley: Sacked (from North)
    - McKenna: Jury still out

    That's just off the top of my head, there may be more.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66851

    #2
    Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

    I have never rated Malthouse.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • Maddog37
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3132

      #3
      Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

      Weird bloke but has won more flags than us.

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      • Happy Days
        Hall of Fame
        • May 2008
        • 10157

        #4
        Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

        Originally posted by bornadog
        I have never rated Malthouse.
        C'mon man.
        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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        • Nuggety Back Pocket
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 2064

          #5
          Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

          Originally posted by Happy Days
          C'mon man.
          Malthouse got the very best out of some average players during his coaching tenure at the Western Bulldogs. His competitive spirit on the field was matched in getting the best out of the players he coached.WCE had limited success before Malthouse's appointment, where he led them to two premierships.IMO Malthouse rates very highly in the coaching stakes at the WB over the past 30 years.

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          • Hotdog60
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Aug 2009
            • 5920

            #6
            Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

            I would rate him as a coach but I can't warm to him as a person. Is he getting a bit past it? How he goes at Carlton will soon tell.
            Don't piss off old people
            The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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            • Remi Moses
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14785

              #7
              Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

              Originally posted by Hotdog60
              I would rate him as a coach but I can't warm to him as a person. Is he getting a bit past it? How he goes at Carlton will soon tell.
              Crap bloke . Very good coach

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              • Remi Moses
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 14785

                #8
                Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

                Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                Malthouse got the very best out of some average players during his coaching tenure at the Western Bulldogs. His competitive spirit on the field was matched in getting the best out of the players he coached.WCE had limited success before Malthouse's appointment, where he led them to two premierships.IMO Malthouse rates very highly in the coaching stakes at the WB over the past 30 years.
                His 87 performance was outstanding.
                He says that was his best year coaching and favourite. That team was awful and pre salary cap, so we lost players. Still our best coach in my time.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66851

                  #9
                  Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

                  Originally posted by Happy Days
                  C'mon man.
                  ok, as a person.

                  as a coach - I do think he is past his best
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Topdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7471

                    #10
                    Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    ok, as a person.

                    as a coach - I do think he is past his best
                    being past his best is very different from "I have never rated him"

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                    • Scorlibo
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3087

                      #11
                      Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

                      The way I see it his hard nosed coaching style is outdated and only still works for him because he's Mick Malthouse and he demands respect. Someone like Mark Neeld once he lost the respect of his players had no way of turning things around because he took the, 'no, I'm right, we'll just keep on ploughing away' attitude like Malthouse. You can see it in Buckley too but Bucks seems to have the footy brain and respect at Collingwood to succeed.
                      'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66851

                        #12
                        Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

                        Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                        Malthouse got the very best out of some average players during his coaching tenure at the Western Bulldogs. His competitive spirit on the field was matched in getting the best out of the players he coached.WCE had limited success before Malthouse's appointment, where he led them to two premierships.IMO Malthouse rates very highly in the coaching stakes at the WB over the past 30 years.
                        Whilst we had a very good season in 1985, Malthouse failed to get us to any other finals in subsequent years. I believe we had the players at the time, but he just didn't have the ability to get them up for many games. I still maintain, we should have won the 1985 prelim, but we were outcoached.
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21844

                          #13
                          Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

                          I think Buckley, dealing with a bunch of wankers and egos is probably doing OK.

                          How he rebuilds the list and turns around attitude and performance over the next two years will be interesting to see.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7471

                            #14
                            Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

                            Which Scott was under Malthouse? Laidley is still considered a great tactician and IMO wasn't a failure as a coach.

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                            • Scorlibo
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 3087

                              #15
                              Re: The Malthouse Assistant Coach Empire: Over?

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              I think Buckley, dealing with a bunch of wankers and egos is probably doing OK.

                              How he rebuilds the list and turns around attitude and performance over the next two years will be interesting to see.
                              And this is where Mick was poor for mine. I've heard Rocket talk privately about his own role at Collingwood and he made it pretty clear that there were some big attitude problems at the club partially the result of Mick being okay with players acting unprofessionally so long as they performed on game day.
                              'And the Western suburbs erupt!'

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