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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14472

    Carlton football club lab

    Just a note on something I was offered from my work place, apparently the club has a set up where you wear a jacket with some sort of electronic devices on it that record your body movements.
    My work place approached me to do this at Carlton as it is the only place in Melbourne that has it. I have been approached as I have worked at this place for 6 years without injury, ( not bad for a 50 yo), this will be a worlds first where they will study 25 of us and employ people that fall in range with our movements.
    My job is very physical and we have anywhere up to 60 people at a time on light duties.
    I find it interesting that our club being a sports university why wouldn't we have it as well ?
    Bring back the biff
  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15408

    #2
    Re: Carlton football club lab

    Wearing a jacket during training and game day wouldn't be practical?
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21991

      #3
      Re: Carlton football club lab

      It sounds quite specialised. Perhaps this is why VU-WB don't do it, or maybe they use a different method to track similar things.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #4
        Re: Carlton football club lab

        Interesting to see how the lawyers justify non selection for movements which are due a disability as per the legislation.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27664

          #5
          Re: Carlton football club lab

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Interesting to see how the lawyers justify non selection for movements which are due a disability as per the legislation.
          Do you mean the unsuccessful applicant could claim the fact they can't move properly is a disability and then sue the company on the basis of them being discriminated against on the basis of their disability?
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            #6
            Re: Carlton football club lab

            Originally posted by Twodogs
            Do you mean the unsuccessful applicant could claim the fact they can't move properly is a disability and then sue the company on the basis of them being discriminated against on the basis of their disability?
            Correct. The company may assert that the applicant could not properly fulfill the 'inherent requirements' of the position owing to this measuring technique and the company is reducing OH&S risk. An unsuccessful applicant would have an argument to say that this measuring technique may or mat not be an 'inherent requirement' and that the company could make reasonable modifications to allow a successful applicant. Further, if an unsuccessful applicant cannot move as per the measuring test and that relates to an injury as defined in the act, then the unsuccessful applicant could try to mount a case saying they were effectively denied employment owing to their disability which could have been reasonably accommodated. The proviso is say someone with a shoulder injury or other injury/disability, not a serious injury or disability that cannot be reasonably accommodated. If this is the basis, claims to Fair Work Commission and Human Rights bodies can be made for discrimination.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • Twodogs
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 27664

              #7
              Re: Carlton football club lab

              Interesting argument.

              There's a tiny bit of me screaming that it could be seen as a cynical explotation of the disability act. I guess it would depend on what exclusions are written into the act and whether the company could use them.
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #8
                Re: Carlton football club lab

                Originally posted by Twodogs
                Interesting argument.

                There's a tiny bit of me screaming that it could be seen as a cynical explotation of the disability act. I guess it would depend on what exclusions are written into the act and whether the company could use them.
                Possibly. The main exclusion is that despite something being an inherent requirement, accommodations to suit employment would not be reasonable. I've not read the DDA for a few years so I may be out of date, but any company doing this should have had a very senior Barrister's opinion as something to rely on. If any compaany hasn't thought this through, it will be a very expesnive exercise, more so if they can't do it.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • ledge
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 14472

                  #9
                  Re: Carlton football club lab

                  I would say all the other normal employment requirements would apply as in work history, reliability previous experience, we know companies all can find a way not to employ someone using other reasons
                  Bring back the biff

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                  • SlimPickens
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 2929

                    #10
                    Re: Carlton football club lab

                    Originally posted by ledge
                    Just a note on something I was offered from my work place, apparently the club has a set up where you wear a jacket with some sort of electronic devices on it that record your body movements.
                    My work place approached me to do this at Carlton as it is the only place in Melbourne that has it. I have been approached as I have worked at this place for 6 years without injury, ( not bad for a 50 yo), this will be a worlds first where they will study 25 of us and employ people that fall in range with our movements.
                    My job is very physical and we have anywhere up to 60 people at a time on light duties.
                    I find it interesting that our club being a sports university why wouldn't we have it as well ?
                    Because in short it is BS. To effectively measure how our bones, joints, tissues move you literally would need to drill into the bone to place a measuring device. What this jacket measure is well how much the jacket moves.

                    Carlton did something similar with Lycra suits to measure deficiencies in players movement. It was apparently all the rage but all
                    It showed was how electrodes placed on a Lycra suit moved . They tried to correlate this with pattern injuries and it came up with peanuts and was a completely waste of money.

                    I won't bore you with the science but the reason our club is doing something like this is because it's pointless.
                    "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: Carlton football club lab

                      Originally posted by ledge
                      I would say all the other normal employment requirements would apply as in work history, reliability previous experience, we know companies all can find a way not to employ someone using other reasons
                      Like that cafe owner in Sydney?

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