Is the Judd Vs Hodge thing settled now?

[mjp]

Re: Is the Judd Vs Hodge thing settled now?

To be fair, when you look at the original post Judd also won a Norm Smith and captained two clubs. I guess you can question his loyalty but Hodge was not drafted interstate at 18.

Both great players. Not sure why I have to pick

[Missing-Dog]

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I still haven't forgiven Hodge for condescendingly patting Steven Tiller on the head after he baulked him and goaled after Tiller fell over in only his first or second game. Just showed complete dis-respect to us at a time when Hodge and his team hadn't achieved anything. The other bloke on the other hand is a salary cap evading turd that has represented both West Coast and Carlton. Just as bad as each other I reckon.

[Scorlibo]

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Judd, for sure.

I reckon you'd love to go into battle with Hodgey, in big games there's no one better, but as others have said, Hodge has never shown the ability to be consistently elite where it matters - in the midfield.

Juddy has been an incredible player, better than Voss, Hird and Buckley, probably the best I've seen.

[Topdog]

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I still haven't forgiven Hodge for condescendingly patting Steven Tiller on the head after he baulked him and goaled after Tiller fell over in only his first or second game. Just showed complete dis-respect to us at a time when Hodge and his team hadn't achieved anything. The other bloke on the other hand is a salary cap evading turd that has represented both West Coast and Carlton. Just as bad as each other I reckon.

Good to see you don't hold grudges and can appreciate the great players of this sport

[Bornadog]

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Good to see you don't hold grudges and can appreciate the great players of this sport

I thought it was humorous.

[Ozza]

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Was having this discussion last night with my Hawthorn supporting brother in law.

Hodge has closed the gap - but Judd is still slightly ahead for me. Either way - both clubs would be very satisified with what they got and wouldn't change their picks if they had their time again.

But I think it is easy to forget how good Judd was in both Grand Finals he played in. 2 Brownlows, and but for a significant injury when he was miles in front in another count - could have had 3. Judd would be in the best handful of midfield players ever and was an absolutely dominant player from 2005-2012.

Hodge is an outstanding big game player and leader.

[Missing-Dog]

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Good to see you don't hold grudges and can appreciate the great players of this sport

Who knows what impact Hodge's actions had on Steven Tiller. For all we know that little incident may have shattered the kid's confidence forever. Take that disrespectful act out and we could be talking about Hodge, Judd and Tiller.

I do appreciate the skills of the modern day player and enjoy watching them ply their trade to the best of their abilities, as long as it's not against us. Probably the reason why I don't partake in those crappy DreamTeam / Supercoach Competitions. I can't go to the footy to watch us play the Blues and hope Marc Murphy gets 30+ touches and 100+ points.

But yes, I do hold grudges. Always had a dislike of Melbourne, but that grew ten-fold the day Grinter smashed Terry Wallace. Ever since then I rejoice in every piece of bad fortune that descends on the Melbourne Football Club.

[Ozza]

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Who knows what impact Hodge's actions had on Steven Tiller. For all we know that little incident may have shattered the kid's confidence forever. Take that disrespectful act out and we could be talking about Hodge, Judd and Tiller..

Hodge, Judd and Tiller.....the debate that rages on in pubs around Australia for generations to come....

In all seriousness, if that incident is enough to shatter a player - then that would be a sure fire way to know someone is not cut out for the AFL. Players and Teams that win premierships are ruthless.

[bulldogtragic]

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I love this comparison, I think Hodge may have leap frogged Judd now.

Judd: 279 games, 288 goals, club captain, 1 X premiership captain, 1 X Norm Smith, 1 X premiership, 6 x All Australian and once captain, 2 Brownlows
Trade: Kennedy, Pick 3 & 20


Hodge: 270 games, 188 goals, club captain, 3 X time premiership captain, 2 X Norm Smiths & nearly a third today, 4 X premierships, 4 time All Australian & once captain.
Trade: Trent Croad & Luke McPharlin

[westdog54]

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It's still close on those numbers but Hodge edges him in my book.

Juddy has more individual Honours. If he hadn't have gone to the most mismanaged club in the land he'd probably have better numbers again.

[1eyedog]

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Two Brownlows is massive. Judd is the better player and that's what they're getting assessed on. Four premierships is a team effort but Hodge is by far the better captain / leader and club man.

Removing the numbers, Judd was more exhilirating to watch.

[hujsh]

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With both at their best, Judd is better. Hodge has lasted longer and been part of sustained success but Judd was the better player.

[bulldogtragic]

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With both at their best, Judd is better. Hodge has lasted longer and been part of sustained success but Judd was the better player.

The bigger question is who would get drafted first with hindsight?

[hujsh]

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The bigger question is who would get drafted first with hindsight?

Well if you're the Hawks you don't rick messing up whatever got you 4 premierships. If it's another team with the 1st pick you probably go Judd and hopefully he doesn't get the shoulder/OP. Unless you need more versatility and have a very strong midfield then maybe Hodge.

[westdog54]

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The bigger question is who would get drafted first with hindsight?

Still Hodge for mine. More versatile and I think he's a better leader on field.