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  • F'scary
    WOOF Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 4089

    #46
    Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

    Originally posted by G-Mo77
    What a load of rot.
    I was going to say "and..?" but perhaps Jeanette54's rebuttal covered your position and you just wanted to lead under the ball a bit?
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    • Remi Moses
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 14785

      #47
      Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

      Jones's best form was playing second banana behind Barry in 2011, but let's be honest Barry drew a significant crowd in his vicinity.
      He has had 3 more seasons to mantain something like that form and take the lead role .
      After all he has the size and capabilities of being the number one forward.
      Unfortunately due to well documented reasons he hasn't looked like it, and even this season he had Crameri taking attention and he still didn't take his chances.

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      • G-Mo77
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Apr 2007
        • 9873

        #48
        Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

        Originally posted by F'scary
        I was going to say "and..?" but perhaps Jeanette54's rebuttal covered your position and you just wanted to lead under the ball a bit?
        You're insinuating those that wanted to keep Jones or thought he had talent had their head up their arse for 3 years. It's pretty insulting TBH.
        Last edited by G-Mo77; 28-12-2014, 08:27 AM.

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        • F'scary
          WOOF Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 4089

          #49
          Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

          Originally posted by G-Mo77
          You're insinuating those that wanted to keep Jones or thought he had their head up their arse for 3 years. It's pretty insulting TBH.
          Sorry, G-Mo, but I used the word "sentimental." I didn't say anyone had their head up their arse.
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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 65591

            #50
            Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

            Well I for one never wanted to see Jones go, especially after being with the club for so long. Big guys don't grow on trees, and Jones did show lots of potential and will only peak in the next few years.

            Good luck to him, but I am sorry he went to the club I hate the most.
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            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 43887

              #51
              Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Well I for one never wanted to see Jones go, especially after being with the club for so long. Big guys don't grow on trees, and Jones did show lots of potential and will only peak in the next few years.

              Good luck to him, but I am sorry he went to the club I hate the most.
              Same here. It's done but I will watch his progress next season with interest.
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              • KT31
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jul 2008
                • 5454

                #52
                Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

                Wasted our time and resources, he never put in 100% and showed no loyalty when it was to hard.
                We needed a senior forward who was prepared to step up and he took the low road.
                Will put in at the Blues for a season and we will have people asking why we didn't invest more in him, but at the end of the day he didn't want to play for us and I suspect his ambition was always to be at one of the bigger and showy club.
                Malthouse is kidding himself if he thinks he has the link to finals in him, how times have changed when Malthouse was at WC Jones would have been one of the first players he would have put up for a trade.
                If he didn't want to be in our jumper then good riddance.
                It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                • westdog54
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6683

                  #53
                  Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

                  Originally posted by Jeanette54
                  Given that his most recent form was the VFL Grand Final, I would argue with this statement.

                  During that last quarter when the ball came in very quickly (and regularly) giving the defenders very little time to get organised Jones was a powerful focal point. I also loved his confidence in taking that hurried, set longshot before the Hawks tall timber could get to the goal square. The one thing that I thought he always lacked was the second/third effort after his initial effort was unsuccessful, and I thought his efforts when he didn't actually have the ball were non existent. Shame he couldn't have taken a leaf out of Jack Redpath's book here. Without the ball Redpath shepherds, bulldozes, tackles and intimidates. Watch the replay if you can, there's a couple of hawks caught frozen like rabbits in a headlights glare as Jack approaches at high speed, his intent clear.

                  If Mick can get some extra off ball effort from Liam Jones, and Carlton can get the ball to him quickly, we will regret seeing him go. I just hope he doesn't finally demonstrate his true potential when playing against us.
                  Whilst at the same time completely ignoring Dickson who was 20 metres clear leading toward the goal square.

                  The reason it was a hurried shot was because he wasn't confident of getting the trip without an empty goal square.

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                  • bulldogsthru&thru
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • May 2011
                    • 7625

                    #54
                    Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

                    IMO the loss of Jones was made worse when we got Boyd. He then could have been that 2nd forward and it would have worked wonders for him.

                    In saying that though i don't believe he will have a long and consistent career. He doesn't have the mental ability for it

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                    • Twodogs
                      Administrator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27645

                      #55
                      Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

                      Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                      IMO the loss of Jones was made worse when we got Boyd. He then could have been that 2nd forward and it would have worked wonders for him.

                      In saying that though i don't believe he will have a long and consistent career. He doesn't have the mental ability for it

                      Agree strongly. Jones was very poorly advised by his management when he upped sticks and went to Carlton. He would have been better off staying with us and playing second banana alongside Tom Boyd. It's hard to see who takes pressure of him at Carlton. Carlton have tall forwards but they are rubbish.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 65591

                        #56
                        Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

                        Originally posted by Twodogs
                        Agree strongly. Jones was very poorly advised by his management when he upped sticks and went to Carlton. He would have been better off staying with us and playing second banana alongside Tom Boyd. It's hard to see who takes pressure of him at Carlton. Carlton have tall forwards but they are rubbish.
                        nah he would have been trying to take hangers over Boyd.
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                        • F'scary
                          WOOF Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 4089

                          #57
                          Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          Same here. It's done but I will watch his progress next season with interest.
                          The most likely outcome will be a season similar to his last 3 seasons with us. For sure, there will be a couple of games where everyone says he has arrived but there will be more games where he goes missing and then gets dropped to the reserves. Carton have Waite, Menzel, Kruezer, Henderson and Casboult also vying for a maximum of 3 tall forward positions. With that amount of competition Jones will not be afforded the luxury of being gifted game after game until he "comes good."
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                          • boydogs
                            WOOF Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 5842

                            #58
                            Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

                            Originally posted by F'scary
                            Carton have Waite, Menzel, Kruezer, Henderson and Casboult also vying for a maximum of 3 tall forward positions
                            Waite's gone to North, Menzel's not tall (186). They reckon Kreuzer will play as a forward in 2015 though, maybe Henderson goes back but it still leaves Jones competing with Casboult. I would probably go with Casboult, bigger body who imposes himself on the contest more
                            If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

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                            • F'scary
                              WOOF Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 4089

                              #59
                              Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

                              Originally posted by boydogs
                              Waite's gone to North, Menzel's not tall (186). They reckon Kreuzer will play as a forward in 2015 though, maybe Henderson goes back but it still leaves Jones competing with Casboult. I would probably go with Casboult, bigger body who imposes himself on the contest more
                              Waite - you are correct! How could I have forgotten? Menzel is a marking forward and will offer Jones stiff competition for a FP position.
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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #60
                                Re: Malthouse 'so excited' by Blues' trade bargains

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                nah he would have been trying to take hangers over Boyd.
                                On his chest!!!!
                                Never have I ever seen him with the outstretched dukes.Shows a lack of confidence in his own ability let alone the ability to compete AT ALL!!!!!

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