Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

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  • The Bulldogs Bite
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 11044

    Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

    Originally posted by Greystache
    It's a good question TBB and I can't really make my mind up. He has talent but lacks heart, he provides great attack but no defence. Watching the way Hunter stood out on the weekend makes me think Yarran wouldn't fit in with the way we want to play as he is now. The big question is do we think we can change him?
    It's a tough call. Given Carlton's likely asking price, you'd probably err on the side of caution. Chances are he delivers much of the same. An average side (as Carlton is now) can't carry him, a very good side could. For mine - he's similar to Higgins. Shaun suddenly looks a quality player again, but it's because he's playing in a good side - he's allowed to 'fade' in and out of games without the result really depending on him. Getting Yarran would be a similar scenario.

    I do think Yarran is an upgrade on Hunter though. He's much more powerful through the hips, quicker and a better kick.

    Undecided too. Hard to judge from the outside, you'd need to speak with him to find out his values/ambitions re: footy.
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    • Go_Dogs
      Hall of Fame
      • Jan 2007
      • 10071

      Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

      I really like a lot of what Yarran can do as a player, but it's a no for me.

      PS - Jones on $400k? I'm shocked.
      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 65591

        Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

        Originally posted by Go_Dogs
        I really like a lot of what Yarran can do as a player, but it's a no for me.

        PS - Jones on $400k? I'm shocked.
        i wonder where those dollars came from? I haven't seen any reports on what Carlton paid
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        • Go_Dogs
          Hall of Fame
          • Jan 2007
          • 10071

          Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

          Originally posted by bornadog
          i wonder where those dollars came from? I haven't seen any reports on what Carlton paid
          It just doesn't quite resonate with me, but then again, I guess it's not significantly more than most 24 year old key forwards would be on, even the ones who haven't become consistent performers.
          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

            Originally posted by Go_Dogs
            It just doesn't quite resonate with me, but then again, I guess it's not significantly more than most 24 year old key forwards would be on, even the ones who haven't become consistent performers.
            Not only did it need to be higher than our offer, it needed to be high enough that if he fell to the PSD the price tag would mean he slipped past a few clubs needing a KPF. He was no 1 for contested marks and obviously they thought they could transform him into a gun player. It's about market rate really.
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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14028

              Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

              Not sure if he played today in the seconds , didn't kick any goals if he did
              Bring back the biff

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

                A recalled Jones with 5 touches, 1 tackle and no scores to 3/4 time... I'm seriously still frustrated for him, when you get dropped and then recalled just show anything Liam, anything whatsoever...
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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 17832

                  Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  A recalled Jones with 5 touches, 1 tackle and no scores to 3/4 time... I'm seriously still frustrated for him, when you get dropped and then recalled just show anything Liam, anything whatsoever...
                  On a positive note, Tutt has been adequate. Copped a few bone crunching tackles, too.
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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

                    Originally posted by comrade
                    On a positive note, Tutt has been adequate. Copped a few bone crunching tackles, too.
                    I think he made a good call to leave, I'm not sure why we wanted to keep him. I think regular games might be good for him.
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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14028

                      Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

                      He gets caught a lot though and has no kind of build to even break a tackle, he runs he tries but I don't think he is up to it.
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • Bulldog Joe
                        Premiership Moderator
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5433

                        Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        A recalled Jones with 5 touches, 1 tackle and no scores to 3/4 time... I'm seriously still frustrated for him, when you get dropped and then recalled just show anything Liam, anything whatsoever...
                        In could only bear watching for the first half, but Jones did a couple of good things. Had a big influence on a the Bulldog goal kicked by Tutt. That was Everitt along the wing long to Jones in the square. Jones brought the ball to ground and tapped it out to Tutt for a goal.
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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15108

                          Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          A recalled Jones with 5 touches, 1 tackle and no scores to 3/4 time... I'm seriously still frustrated for him, when you get dropped and then recalled just show anything Liam, anything whatsoever...

                          What exactly do you expect him to show when they lose by 13 odd goals?
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • Twodogs
                            Administrator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27645

                            Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

                            Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                            In could only bear watching for the first half, but Jones did a couple of good things. Had a big influence on a the Bulldog goal kicked by Tutt. That was Everitt along the wing long to Jones in the square. Jones brought the ball to ground and tapped it out to Tutt for a goal.
                            And Malthouse coached it!
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                            • Ghost Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 9404

                              Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

                              Lacks belief in himself. Panics, doesn't take full responsibility. I think Mick can show him the kind of care to get him to his potential, if he is allowed to stay that long, and if Carlton is prepared to persist with Jones.
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                              • Twodogs
                                Administrator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27645

                                Re: Liam Jones' First Outing In Carton Colours

                                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                                Lacks belief in himself. Panics, doesn't take full responsibility. I think Mick can show him the kind of care to get him to his potential, if he is allowed to stay that long, and if Carlton is prepared to persist with Jones.
                                He has a three year contract on good money. He will see out the three years at least.
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