AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

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  • westdog54
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6686

    Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

    Originally posted by Topdog
    I really don't think Lachie did anything wrong with the information we have at the moment. Other than his friend being a DH
    Yep I'm inclined to agree. At worst he's been careless in allowing access to his betting account.

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    • AndrewP6
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2009
      • 8142

      Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

      Call me cynical, but the whole "My mate did it on my account" story seems rather high school-ish... Surely that's just the mate taking the fall so Hunter doesn't get whacked. Hope I'm wrong.
      [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66700

        Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

        Originally posted by AndrewP6
        Call me cynical, but the whole "My mate did it on my account" story seems rather high school-ish... Surely that's just the mate taking the fall so Hunter doesn't get whacked. Hope I'm wrong.
        I agree can see that a mile away. Whether he did anything against AFL rules is another matter.

        The one thing I have herad is Hunter and a few others are in a syndicate and t was a syndicate bet. Whether that is right or wrong as its possible Hunter didn't know the bet the syndicate was putting on.
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        • Topdog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7471

          Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

          Hasn't the following already been confirmed

          * it was a phone bet?
          * Bet was placed by friend in Melbourne while Lachie was in Ballarat.

          My understanding was those 2 things were confirmed. If they are then the whole worst story since high school is impossible to get away with.

          There are not only phone records kept by the person making the phone call which can be verified but also the recorded phone call of the betting agency. The story could be picked apart in about 5 minutes if they are not being honest.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66700

            Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

            Dogs hope for quick answer on Hunter

            WESTERN Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge hopes an outcome of an AFL investigation into Lachie Hunter's betting activity will happen within days.
            The Dogs coach also said the young midfielder would be free for selection early in the season.

            Hunter met with the AFL's integrity department last week after reporting to his club that a bet was placed on the Bulldogs' loss to Melbourne last Saturday from his betting account.

            He has claimed it was placed by a Footscray VFL player.

            Hunter, currently unavailable for selection because he was late to a training session before the NAB Challenge games began, trained with his teammates on Friday at Whitten Oval.

            Following Saturday night’s impressive 61-point win over Collingwood, Beveridge said the club would keep supporting Hunter and hoped the 20-year-old would learn from the experience.

            "I'm hoping that something we can hang our hat on decision-wise will happen early next week, that's up to the AFL," Beveridge said.

            "All we're doing is supporting him. We can't really make too much comment on it.

            "He's probably been through a period where he's learned a bit about what his future looks like with doing the right thing by himself and his teammates, and so we need to help him through it.

            "Hopefully in the early part of this season we can get him back into the side and he can start to play good footy because he's a very important player for us."
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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

              You know what I want to see if this is the real story. Immediately sack the Footscray top up player for betting against team mates. Why hasn't this happened?
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15304

                Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                You know what I want to see if this is the real story. Immediately sack the Footscray top up player for betting against team mates. Why hasn't this happened?
                The club was instructed to take no action or conduct an investigation until the afl had finshed theirs.
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  The club was instructed to take no action or conduct an investigation until the afl had finshed theirs.
                  Ok. Then it's a not negotiable when the times right to sack said top up player.

                  We need media watch to have an AFL themed episode. 10 people involved say the Oz. We say one AFL player 200kms from the bet location and a top up.

                  One party is full of effluent.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66700

                    Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    Ok. Then it's a not negotiable when the times right to sack said top up player.

                    We need media watch to have an AFL themed episode. 10 people involved say the Oz. We say one AFL player 200kms from the bet location and a top up.

                    One party is full of effluent.
                    Maybe he did nothing wrong.
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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Maybe he did nothing wrong.
                      The saga needs a sacrifice. The consequential message to the Bulldogs groups needs to be strong and absolute.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Topdog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7471

                        Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        The saga needs a sacrifice. The consequential message to the Bulldogs groups needs to be strong and absolute.
                        So you did nothing wrong but we will sack you?

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                        • westdog54
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6686

                          Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

                          Does Hunter share a house with any players? I wonder if this might have been a "shared computer" stuff up.

                          The Footscray listed player needs to go if he's bet against the club. No question.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

                            Originally posted by Topdog
                            So you did nothing wrong but we will sack you?
                            The club has been into disrepute. Whether it's technical or not, 99.9% of people won't understand. For me it's an offence of strict liability, like parking in a disabled car spot without a permit. Sure it may be an accident, but booking said car owner is a strong message about needing to obey sacrosanct things (not betting against your employer) and the need to send a strong disincentive to anyone and everyone else that the consequences are so terrible, it's best just to find a park further away and walk - or in this case bet on the 567,543,698 things you can bet live on.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

                              So.....did the bet get up?

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                              • hujsh
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 11841

                                Re: AFL to investigate claims some Western Bulldogs players allegedly backed team to lose

                                Is there any ruie that says that employees (not AFL listed players) of an AFL club can not bet against the club they're employed by? Unless there is (or there's some other similar rule) I don't see how the VFL player can be sacked.
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