Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #1

    Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

    One third of the regular season down. I thought it'd be interesting to see if your 'in danger' list of players have moved.

    Preseason I had Cordy, Fuller as my certs for delisting. Prudden and Grant (not for want of choosing) in the danger zone. Two older guys of our 4 looking down the barrel (Picken, Bob, Morris & Boyd). So perhaps 5 or 6.

    One third in Fuller's injuries combined with loading up half backs has him still in my dead certs category.
    Cordy has come back from the certain for me. I have him still in the danger zone, but he's going ahead just.
    I think Prudden has a contract and I like what I've read. But with Clay & Libba, the injury squad is big enough. Danger of perhaps going to the RL.
    Grant still to me represents value in staying, if he wants to. Not a big salary, and trade wise not worth enough to me.
    The old boys look as good as ever. I think we can keep 3 safely, so seeing how they go with injuries might be the difference.

    The bolter for trade is Minson. From All Aussie to VFL for a long spell. If he's not back and offered security, I can see both sides being prepared to explore a move else where.
    Campbell needs to step up, or same as above.
    Clay I understand has a contract, so we must honour it and hope like hell we don't see him do it for a 4th time.
    Trade bait: My bolter is Hunter. Natural talent but a club ban, and betting probe etc means he gets mentioned.

    My cert: Fuller
    At risk: Prudden. Two of Cordy, Campbell or Minson (trade)
    Old boys: If form and fitness maintain, perhaps one retirement.
    Poss. Trades: Minson, Grant, Hunter
    Best guess: 5 movements from the main list. Last spot for Roarke Smith if continues to impress.

    Hope to see some big changes by the two thirds marker of the season. Any hits or misses?
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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 67700

    #2
    Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

    I think we have to lose 3 by way of Draft rules.

    Fuller, Prudden, Darley - Boyd or Morris may retire?

    Possible trades

    Minson and dare I say Grant, although I would prefer to keep him.

    I don't think we will have many changes. would like a better look at the rookie list and bring in a young ruckman.

    If we could trade for a Key back, then I am open to include draft picks and some young players like a Hrovat.
    Last edited by Bornadog; 15-05-2015, 03:51 PM.
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    • Bulldog Joe
      Premiership Moderator
      • Jul 2009
      • 5628

      #3
      Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

      I thought it was 3 main list spots required.

      At this point I would see Fuller as the certain delisting, but if he gets on the park he could prove his worth.

      Boyd has missed 2 from 6 with general soreness/calf. Indicates his body may be struggling. So despite his form he would be more than 50% to retire.

      Minson is really in an untenable position. If the coach won't play him based on being best at ruck work, there really is no position for him. Looks like a definite trade to me.

      Others could be Morris (retirement) depending on how he returns from injury.

      Fletcher Roberts needs to prove his worth over the next few weeks and Jarrad Grant would certainly be a trade candidate.
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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #4
        Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

        3 Spots was the minimum turn over I thought too. And Goodes is a rookie BAD.
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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 67700

          #5
          Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          3 Spots was the minimum turn over I thought too. And Goodes is a rookie BAD.
          Yes you are right about Goodes. I have edited mine.

          PS just checked and it is 3 minimum.
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          • Go_Dogs
            Hall of Fame
            • Jan 2007
            • 10252

            #6
            Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

            Fuller appears the only certain out at this stage.

            There is always the potential for an unexpected change or two, but I'd otherwise have thought it likely Boyd will retire, Minson a potential trade target with Grant and Darley perhaps under review subject to how they finish the year.

            Morris too if he deems it time to hang up the boots.

            I suspect we'll only look at 3-4 changes to the senior list this year.
            Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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            • Webby
              WOOF Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 1880

              #7
              Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

              I reckon Boyd will want to stay on next year and that Moreis might give it away. Goodes is likely to be delisted and Will is ripe for trading. Darley, Prudden and Grant need to start playing as if their careers depend on it, too... Because they do!

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              • boydogs
                WOOF Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 5845

                #8
                Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

                Redpath needs to get himself back into the seniors and show he can do it at that level
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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  #9
                  Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

                  For me I'd say Fuller is the only certainty .
                  In danger- Pruden ( needs to get on the park and play consistent footy, and needs a few senior games)
                  Hunter( needs to get his s*** together off field for a start, and a chance to be traded)
                  Grant ( I think the dye is cast)
                  Minson ( possible trade option)
                  Campbell ( see above )
                  Redpath ( with all our forward options, jack's in trouble)
                  Morris ( I think he may retire, and if you asked me pre-season you'd have your house on Boyd retiring )

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                  • Go_Dogs
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10252

                    #10
                    Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

                    Originally posted by boydogs
                    Redpath needs to get himself back into the seniors and show he can do it at that level
                    Interesting one - I hadn't contemplated him being a possible out, but given how our list is shaping up you're spot on.

                    He needs to put in some solid AFL level performances to ensure he retains his place.
                    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                    • The Doctor
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 3712

                      #11
                      Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

                      I think Redpath is safe so long as he plays well at VFL level and does his job when called up at AFL level.

                      While I have serious doubts he'll make it in the long term we just lack depth in key forwards. All we have is Boyd and Stringer who could command a key forward post. The others are not specialist in this key area. So we need some depth.

                      A key forward in the draft is a priority imo.
                      Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                      • azabob
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15481

                        #12
                        Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

                        Originally posted by The Doctor
                        I think Redpath is safe so long as he plays well at VFL level and does his job when called up at AFL level.

                        While I have serious doubts he'll make it in the long term we just lack depth in key forwards. All we have is Boyd and Stringer who could command a key forward post. The others are not specialist in this key area. So we need some depth.

                        A key forward in the draft is a priority imo.
                        More so than a key defender?
                        More of an In Bruges guy?

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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14551

                          #13
                          Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

                          We do have Crameri who has lead the goal kicking for two teams in the last 5 years , also bontempelli would be a great forward if need be in my opinion.
                          I'm not sure we are seriously lacking in anything on the list except more game time and experience, age and growth basically.
                          Look at Talia all if a sudden he has come of age. Webb and Dale are gems , I'm not worried about any of our positions to be honest it's all there just building.
                          Bring back the biff

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                          • G-Mo77
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9901

                            #14
                            Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

                            I think Redpath is on a 2 year deal. I know that doesn't mean a lot but I think he's safe for 2016.

                            Fuller an obvious candidate
                            Darley? He's done some nice things but is still a fair way off IMO. Looking forward to seeing what he can do this week.
                            Prudden has yet to play a senior game. Injuries have hurt him badly but how long can we hold him for?

                            Minson is likely to go to another team via trade at this stage.
                            Grant another that could be shopped.

                            Morris a chance at retirement but I'm going to back him in for another year.

                            Rookie list I would clear completely apart from Smith who I see a bit of promise in.

                            Got to get Talia to sign on or he could be a possible departure as well.

                            I think it will be minimal turnover, 4 maybe 5 spots with a fresh batch of rookie listed players.

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                            • F'scary
                              WOOF Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 4089

                              #15
                              Re: Moving-Rolling De-Listing Thread 2015

                              Beveridge has made the ruck a real issue to date this season. Unless Cordy and Campbell improve, something will have to happen with bolstering ruck stocks. I don't buy that Beveridge doesn't rate traditional ruck work. His problem is the cattle.
                              Officially on the Bus-wagon

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