Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

[GVGjr]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

You think Kerr is a blue collar midfielder? You're mad.

And who said anything about Priddis? He was not part of their premiership midfield. He didn't even play.

In my opinion he is an elite midfielder with a blue collar worth ethic. Does that make me mad?

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

Bull dust.

Cooney will win his own ball so to will Griffen.

The infatuation we have with our own players is giving me the shits.

So our good players are the reason we've been no good?

Here's me thinking it's been our crap players fault.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

So our good players are the reason we've been no good?

Here's me thinking it's been our crap players fault.

Who are our crap players SS ?

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

In my opinion he is an elite midfielder with a blue collar worth ethic. Does that make me mad?

AhAA! An elite midfielder with a blue collar work ethic. Perfect. Neither one or the other, but both in the same package. You finally get it. well done old boy!

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

Who are our crap players SS ?

Going forward or looking back?

Seeing as we have been speaking about past failures, I'll be specific about last year.

Ray - underperformed to date.
Murphy - struggled most of last year.
Grant - his time had come, too slow.
Hahn - poor last year.
Eagleton - only works one way.
Street - a liability around the ground.
Williams - encouraging but not there yet.
Darcy - never got over his knee, a liability last year.
Power - thank Christ he's gone.
Faulkner - one game and it was a shocker.
Higgins - glimpses but not consistant enough.
Aker - see Higgins.
Addison - long way from AFL standard.
McMahon - his good was good, bad was terrible.
Minson - never got going.
Everitt - while encouraging for a 1st year player, wasn't really up to AFL standard just yet.
Robbins - lost his zip and had nothing left to contribute.
Hill - one game, out of his depth.
Mcdougall - hopeless up forward, a couple of good games in the backline late in the season.
Skipper - can be a role player as a back-up ruckman at best, maybe.
Tiller - not up to it yet.
Wight - not AFL standard.
Harbrow - see Everitt.
Lynch - two games, nowhere near AFL standard yet.

All of these guys are more to blame for our failures last year that Cross or West.
Some will become good AFL players in time, some won't.
Some were once and will be again. Some were once but have gone.

West and Cross have already proved that they are top line AFL players and until their output drops off they will remain two of the most important blokes we have.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

Thanks SS. Now I know who our crap players are.
Sheeesh!!!!!!!!

[hujsh]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

Going forward or looking back?

Seeing as we have been speaking about past failures, I'll be specific about last year.

Ray - underperformed to date.
Murphy - struggled most of last year.
Grant - his time had come, too slow.
Hahn - poor last year.
Eagleton - only works one way.
Street - a liability around the ground.
Williams - encouraging but not there yet.
Darcy - never got over his knee, a liability last year.
Power - thank Christ he's gone.
Faulkner - one game and it was a shocker.
Higgins - glimpses but not consistant enough.
Aker - see Higgins.
Addison - long way from AFL standard.
McMahon - his good was good, bad was terrible.
Minson - never got going.
Everitt - while encouraging for a 1st year player, wasn't really up to AFL standard just yet.
Robbins - lost his zip and had nothing left to contribute.
Hill - one game, out of his depth.
Mcdougall - hopeless up forward, a couple of good games in the backline late in the season.
Skipper - can be a role player as a back-up ruckman at best, maybe.
Tiller - not up to it yet.
Wight - not AFL standard.
Harbrow - see Everitt.
Lynch - two games, nowhere near AFL standard yet.

All of these guys are more to blame for our failures last year that Cross or West.
Some will become good AFL players in time, some won't.
Some were once and will be again. Some were once but have gone.

West and Cross have already proved that they are top line AFL players and until their output drops off they will remain two of the most important blokes we have.

I would call that brutal honesty.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

I would call that brutal honesty.

Yes but don't dare to mention that Cross or West have less than perfect foot skills.
Can't say that.

[Bornadog]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

Going forward or looking back?

Seeing as we have been speaking about past failures, I'll be specific about last year.

Ray - underperformed to date.
Murphy - struggled most of last year.
Grant - his time had come, too slow.
Hahn - poor last year.
Eagleton - only works one way.
Street - a liability around the ground.
Williams - encouraging but not there yet.
Darcy - never got over his knee, a liability last year.
Power - thank Christ he's gone.
Faulkner - one game and it was a shocker.
Higgins - glimpses but not consistant enough.
Aker - see Higgins.
Addison - long way from AFL standard.
McMahon - his good was good, bad was terrible.
Minson - never got going.
Everitt - while encouraging for a 1st year player, wasn't really up to AFL standard just yet.
Robbins - lost his zip and had nothing left to contribute.
Hill - one game, out of his depth.
Mcdougall - hopeless up forward, a couple of good games in the backline late in the season.
Skipper - can be a role player as a back-up ruckman at best, maybe.
Tiller - not up to it yet.
Wight - not AFL standard.
Harbrow - see Everitt.
Lynch - two games, nowhere near AFL standard yet.

and they were the good points wow

Now lets talk about the future SS

[hujsh]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

Yes but don't dare to mention that Cross or West have less than perfect foot skills.
Can't say that.

I think people just feel strongly about the really good players. When i first joined WOOF i got in an argument about Johno. I don't see this happen for Cam Wight

[westdog54]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

Yes but don't dare to mention that Cross or West have less than perfect foot skills.
Can't say that.

Neither did Paul Couch or Greg Williams.

Both were brownlow medallists, Williams played in a premiership, Couch a couple of grand finals.

They sure held their teams back didn't they?

[Mantis]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

So our good players are the reason we've been no good?

Here's me thinking it's been our crap players fault.

No, they haven't. We both no that.

But to think that West and others are faultless and have been carrying the team is a myth.

If West, Johnson and Smith actually kicked the ball to a few others 5 or 6 years ago our development as a team may have been fast-tracked and we wouldn't have been in the predicament we were/ possibly still in.

[Mantis]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

Neither did Paul Couch or Greg Williams.

Both were brownlow medallists, Williams played in a premiership, Couch a couple of grand finals.

They sure held their teams back didn't they?

Lie.

He was probably the best non-dominant kick of his time, til D.Jarman came along anyway.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

Paul Couch kicked 203 goals in 259 games.
Greg Williams kicked 217 goals in 250 games.

They were both good kicks.

[Dry Rot]

Re: Our best midfield (if we didn't have to worry about other positions)

This has been an interesting read. Clearly there are different POVs, but after all this how does our midfield compare with the rest of the comp?

Top 4? 4-8? 9-12? Bottom 4?