Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

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  • Hot_Doggies
    Rookie List
    • May 2009
    • 396

    #46
    Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

    Originally posted by Happy Days
    1. Our forward line is not reliable enough to kick consistent scores and too dependant on heroic freak goals

    2. Koby Stevens is incredibly important to our side and a genuine gun

    3. The red kit needs a bullet in it
    A genuine gun??

    Good solid AFL player might be closer...

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    • Happy Days
      Hall of Fame
      • May 2008
      • 10097

      #47
      Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

      Originally posted by Mantis
      Our forward line would function a whole lot better if we didn't miss quite simple set shots.. The misses by Redpath, Stringer and to a lesser extent Grant are inexcusable.
      Kind of what I said?
      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14871

        #48
        Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

        Originally posted by Mantis
        Would this opinion change if Roberts & Hamling were in the line-up and not on the sidelines due to injury?
        I think relying on the two of them is a big risk - I'd love more depth in KPD posts. Roberts has never played a full senior football season at any level, misses games every year due injury.
        I like Hammers - I think he will make it - but not sure he is a genuine no 2 defender as yet.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14871

          #49
          Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

          Originally posted by westbulldog
          1. Too much negativity when it was only an 8 point loss, without the Redpath miss and the Grant turnover we win, give the kids some slack.
          Our expectations are higher. Good, I like that.
          Even with kids I hate the near enough is good enough" mentality. The players hate losing.
          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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          • westbulldog
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2009
            • 1767

            #50
            Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

            But next year I celebrate 60 years as a supporter so, with permission, I'm cutting myself a bit a slack too!

            Well said merantau, we are of the same vintage, may there be many more bulldog years !

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13191

              #51
              Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

              Originally posted by westdog54
              If anything winnable games are the worst, particularly when we dominated as we did in the 3rd and couldn't capitalise.

              I still think we'll make finals, but I don't believe we'll "make up the numbers".

              The biggest problem is that West Coast, Hawthorn and Fremantle are so far ahead of everyone else its not funny.
              When it counts at the MCG the Hawks are so far in front of WC and Freo its not funny.

              1. The slog and ultimate euphoria of the win in Cairns took it out of our young list

              2. Redpath has his leading patterns right. This takes time to learn and because he has learnt them he provides a good leading option up forward and should stay in.

              3. I thought our ability to stay in the contest through sheer will (Read Wally and Dahl) was really pleasing. No more capitulations. Our biggest test of the second half of the year comes this week.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • mjp
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7309

                #52
                Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

                I am not going to go 1-2-3 but here goes:

                - Starting the 3rd q with both Redpath and Boyd on the bench was a really, really good idea. We got some repeat entries and should have put ourselves in a dominant position in q3.

                - Starting the 3rd q with both Redpath and Boyd on the bench was a really, really DUMB idea. We got some repeat entries but at one point in time we had 18 entries for 2 goals whilst Geelong had 3 entries for 3-goals.

                Why did we go from playing two talls which wasn't working to playing NO talls (and why does it keep trying to auto-correct talls with 'balls') which wasn't working either. Couldn't we have just gone with a one-tall, five small, 2-in / 4-out setup and at least give ourselves a chance of kicking a goal?
                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                • boydogs
                  WOOF Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5842

                  #53
                  Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

                  Originally posted by Ozza
                  2. Barring Mitch Wallis' attack on the contested ball, we aren't absolutely ferocious and ruthless enough in the midfield at the moment.
                  We've got too many out now
                  If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                  Formerly gogriff

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                  • merantau
                    Coaching Staff
                    • May 2015
                    • 3977

                    #54
                    Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

                    Originally posted by westbulldog
                    But next year I celebrate 60 years as a supporter so, with permission, I'm cutting myself a bit a slack too!

                    Well said merantau, we are of the same vintage, may there be many more bulldog years !
                    I'm banking on another 34 at least. When we both make it I'll buy you a beer or three!
                    [URL="http://journals.worldnomads.com/merantau"]http://journals.worldnomads.com/merantau[/URL]
                    "It's not about the destination - it's about the trip."

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44361

                      #55
                      Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

                      Originally posted by Mantis
                      Our forward line would function a whole lot better if we didn't miss quite simple set shots.. The misses by Redpath, Stringer and to a lesser extent Grant are inexcusable.
                      Agreed, Dickson aside we don't get great returns.
                      Grant is almost at the point where he should play on at all times expect if the siren goes.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27654

                        #56
                        Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        Our expectations are higher. Good, I like that.
                        Even with kids I hate the near enough is good enough" mentality. The players hate losing.
                        I'm not overly keen either.

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        Agreed, Dickson aside we don't get great returns.
                        Grant is almost at the point where he should play on at all times expect if the siren goes.
                        Ive seen him at training walk around the arc of the 50 taking set shots every ten metres. Drilled all of them. How can't he convert simple set shots like that.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #57
                          Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

                          Just an observation, in Q3 and Q4 when kicking towards the shaded area it was very hard to distinguish Geelong players in that dark Guernsey and we often seemed to kick it straight to them. I don' think the players were aware they were there half of the time!

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                          • Murphy'sLore
                            WOOF Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 2085

                            #58
                            Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

                            Geelong in camouflage, Bulldogs playing in red… surely it doesn't help with those automatic reactions? Surely on some level the players are conditioned to look for the royal blue, it must just take a split second to adjust to looking for red? Or is that ridiculous?

                            (Never played team sport, happy to be corrected.)

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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13191

                              #59
                              Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              I think relying on the two of them is a big risk - I'd love more depth in KPD posts. Roberts has never played a full senior football season at any level, misses games every year due injury.
                              I like Hammers - I think he will make it - but not sure he is a genuine no 2 defender as yet.
                              Agreed. I think he is suited to the Ryan Hargrave 3rd defender role, albeit a tall one.

                              I would also like to bolster our key back stocks. I have doubts on Talia making it, Roberts is injury prone and I just don't think Roughie is a full back.
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                              • Twodogs
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27654

                                #60
                                Re: Three Things I've Learned - Round 16 Edition

                                Originally posted by Murphy'sLore
                                Geelong in camouflage, Bulldogs playing in red… surely it doesn't help with those automatic reactions? Surely on some level the players are conditioned to look for the royal blue, it must just take a split second to adjust to looking for red? Or is that ridiculous?

                                (Never played team sport, happy to be corrected.)

                                You tend to go by short colours in close and jumper colour long. I did anyway.
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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