Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

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  • Rocco Jones
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jun 2008
    • 6988

    #16
    Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

    Read comments from Beveridge post game about Hunter for Stevens not being like for like meaning we were missing engine room depth.

    I think if Jong plays well in the VFL and gets through the game without any fitness concerns, he will be an auto inclusion.

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    • divvydan
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 1502

      #17
      Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

      Originally posted by lemmon
      Does that finish his season?
      Unsure. Bevo only said that he would be out for a while. I guess maybe a month or so and with the loss of fitness/conditioning that goes along with such an injury, Kobe would be struggling to make it back before the last rounds of the home and away season.

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15548

        #18
        Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

        Still a bit to play out, mainly to do with the VFL game tomorrow, but at the minute I'm thinking:

        In: Jong, Hamling

        Out: Prudden, Dale

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        • Rocco Jones
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jun 2008
          • 6988

          #19
          Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

          Originally posted by Mantis
          Still a bit to play out, mainly to do with the VFL game tomorrow, but at the minute I'm thinking:

          In: Jong, Hamling

          Out: Prudden, Dale
          I'm thinking the same. Possibly Biggs if Jong struggles to run out the game again. Not sure if Biggs can really help out in the engine room though.

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          • Remi Moses
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 14785

            #20
            Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

            I think If Hrovat plays well he comes in.
            Ditto for Lin

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            • Bulldog4life
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 9607

              #21
              Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

              Originally posted by Remi Moses
              I think If Hrovat plays well he comes in.
              Ditto for Lin
              Isnt he injured?

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              • G-Mo77
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Apr 2007
                • 9901

                #22
                Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

                Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                Isnt he injured?
                He was back this week. Doubt Hrovat would get a call up after one game back from a soft tissue injury.

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                • The Doctor
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3712

                  #23
                  Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

                  Originally posted by Remi Moses
                  I think If Hrovat plays well he comes in.
                  Ditto for Lin
                  yep

                  we have been second to the loose ball a lot in recent games and Hrovat will help remedy that and give a bit of drive around the packs.
                  Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                  • Remi Moses
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 14785

                    #24
                    Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

                    Hrovat was playing well in the VFL until he got injured , and was a minor injury .
                    In Jong Hamling possibly Hrovat
                    Out Dale Prudden possibly T Boyd ( we look to top heavy in the forward 50)

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                    • Missing Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8501

                      #25
                      Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

                      In Minson Jong Hamling
                      Out Prudden Campbell Dale

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                      • Hotdog60
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6019

                        #26
                        Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

                        Just on Prudden, his stats for a 2 games player were better than M Boyd and S Crameri. Also the 2nd best Effective Disposal in the team behind Johannisen.

                        Not that I saying that he stays in or out it was just interesting to see.
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                        The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                        • merantau
                          Coaching Staff
                          • May 2015
                          • 4105

                          #27
                          Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

                          Originally posted by Hotdog60
                          Just on Prudden, his stats for a 2 games player were better than M Boyd and S Crameri. Also the 2nd best Effective Disposal in the team behind Johannisen.

                          Not that I saying that he stays in or out it was just interesting to see.
                          Stats can be useful but they can also be misleading unless they provide a complete picture of a player's performance. For example, a hand pass that loops just a little so that the receiver has to wait a tad and is then under a little more pressure when he takes his kick; consequently his kick is less effective. Is the initial hand pass considered an effective disposal? What about missed tackles? Fumbles? Failures to shepherd? Run to position? Spoil? I saw Prudden get a reasonable amount of the ball but I came away with the impression that he wasn't that effective. I thought his tackling was poor. That's my impression:maybe I'm wrong. I guess the edit of his game tells the full story and I assume these play heavily in the Match Committee's deliberations.
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                          • Rocco Jones
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6988

                            #28
                            Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

                            Dropping Campbell, Redpath and/or Boyd may help our structure but I would keep them all in for greater cause reasons.

                            Campbell wasn't up against much in the ruck but deserves his go and we really need to have a look at him. He performed better than what we have seen from Minson this season and clearly ahead of Ayce's performances.

                            Tom Boyd played a team focused role combining forward duties with the ruck.

                            Redpath ended up with 10 tackles and is displaying the right attitude.

                            I know we can't keep carrying guys for development and positive attitude reasons but at the moment our depth is light. We are playing runners like Prudden and Dale who aren't getting in the game anyway.

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                            • I'm Not Bitter Anymore!
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 1100

                              #29
                              Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

                              I'd like to know what injuries we have - has Wood done his groin, is Hamling ok, how is Wallis' back?

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                              • Rocco Jones
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 6988

                                #30
                                Re: Match Committee - Round 17 vs Collingwood

                                Originally posted by Im Not Bitter
                                I'd like to know what injuries we have - has Wood done his groin, is Hamling ok, how is Wallis' back?
                                Not sure I would call what Wood did as doing his groin (is adductor the term now anyway?). It was more getting hit where you don't want to get hit. I think he will be okay (easy for me to say).

                                Wallis might be in a bit of doubt. The type of player who can play sore. We really need him.

                                In- Hamling, Jong
                                Out- Dale, Prudden

                                I would bring in Biggs for Wallis if he isn't right and Talia if Hamling isn't ready.

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