Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

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  • anfo27
    WOOF Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2002

    #31
    Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

    I don't think it's harsh. He was clearly a liability today and worst player on the ground. I certainly wasn't one of the posters calling for him to be signed up and i don't think he was doing well either, i'd rather call his form as just ok. The kid has zero composure with the footy in hand as well. I hope to god we are not in a position again this season where Roughead, Hamling & Roberts are all out and we have to play Talia.

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    • Bulldog4life
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 9607

      #32
      Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

      I think Talia would gain from some coaching from Moz as to how to combat bigger players without giving frees away
      This is his biggest concern
      I have not lost all faith in him

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      • Doc26
        Coaching Staff
        • Sep 2009
        • 3087

        #33
        Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

        With the exception of a goal in the last, Bailey struggled to have an impact for the most part. Would like to bring Hrovat in for him. Similarly, and as others have mentioned, we have others ahead of where Michael Talia is at. Hopefully Roberts or Roughead are available for selection this week. I liked Prudden's game today but he may be vulnerable given the availability of others.

        It's a tough yet handy position to be in where there are many that could come in this week, but the tough question is for who. Any or all of Tom Boyd, Roughead, Roberts, Hamling, Minno, Hrovat, Honeychurch, Jong and Webb would all be legitimate inclusions.

        A winning performance against a finals contender in Collingwod today would limit the number of changes that we're likely to make.

        In: Roughead, Roberts, Hrovat
        Out: Dale, Talia, Prudden

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        • Rocco Jones
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jun 2008
          • 6924

          #34
          Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

          People had given up on Lachie Hunter 2 weeks ago. At the moment Talia should only be a break glass only in emergency type selection but I am not a fan of the harsh words like 'banishing' him etc. His main issue is confidence. Under Beveridge (any good coach), going to the VFL seems less punitive and more about developing aspects of your game. I don't think his attitude stinks. As long as he wants to stay, we just have to be patient. He is what? 22 years old? A baby in KPD age.

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          • kruder
            Coaching Staff
            • May 2011
            • 3777

            #35
            Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

            Originally posted by Mantis
            How was Honeychurch yesterday? Think we need his F50 pressure, probably at Caleb's expense.
            I think Caleb brings a better all round game than Honey. Honey hasn't fired a shot since the first few rounds VFL included.

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            • kruder
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2011
              • 3777

              #36
              Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

              Originally posted by G-Mo77
              Up until that horror stretch in the 4th I thought he did a reasonable job out there today. Yeah Roberts and Hamling are ahead of him but to say banished to Footscray is a harsh and unfair call for someone who is still learning his trade. At the start of the season most were saying he needs to be re-signed ASAP, he was doing well. Like all young players it's a roller coaster ride with ups and downs.
              i thought he was awful. But for some reason I'm prone to the idea of backing him in this week. I'm not sure dropping him back to the VFL again is the answer.

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              • Rocco Jones
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jun 2008
                • 6924

                #37
                Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

                Ideally for me

                In- 2 of Roberts/Hamling/Roughy, maybe Honeychurch
                Out- Talia, Dale, maybe Prudden (harsh coming off a better game but may get lost in defensive shuffle)

                It will be interesting if all 3 defenders are ready.

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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6924

                  #38
                  Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

                  Originally posted by kruder
                  i thought he was awful. But for some reason I'm prone to the idea of backing him in this week. I'm not sure dropping him back to the VFL again is the answer.
                  Not sure it's so much dropping him when we have up to 3 key defenders coming back. He is a back up/developing KP defender.

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                  • The Underdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 6801

                    #39
                    Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

                    Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                    I think Talia would gain from some coaching from Moz as to how to combat bigger players without giving frees away
                    This is his biggest concern
                    I have not lost all faith in him
                    Talia needs to be much stronger in the air. The amount of times he flies and doesn't impact the contest is a big weakness.
                    Park that car
                    Drop that phone
                    Sleep on the floor
                    Dream about me

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                    • Rocco Jones
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 6924

                      #40
                      Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

                      Originally posted by The Underdog
                      Talia needs to be much stronger in the air. The amount of times he flies and doesn't impact the contest is a big weakness.
                      Deer in headlights.

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                      • Smads57
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 2594

                        #41
                        Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

                        Having watched the VFL game live yesterday, I'd only consider Hrovat for promotion. Although Zaine played well, Bevo mentioned in his presser that he expects Hamling and Fletch to be right to go next week. I'd keep Roughy out for another week so he can get his back right for the run home.

                        In Hamling, Fletch
                        Out Dale, Grant
                        There is no sadder sight than a young pessimist.
                        ​​​

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                        • The Underdog
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6801

                          #42
                          Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

                          Originally posted by Smads57
                          Having watched the VFL game live yesterday, I'd only consider Hrovat for promotion. Although Zaine played well, Bevo mentioned in his presser that he expects Hamling and Fletch to be right to go next week. I'd keep Roughy out for another week so he can get his back right for the run home.

                          In Hamling, Fletch
                          Out Dale, Grant
                          I'd like to see Grant dropped but mainly just to see what level of postal BT gets to.

                          I agree but think it should be Dale and Talia out. Could possibly see Hrovat for Daniel too.
                          Park that car
                          Drop that phone
                          Sleep on the floor
                          Dream about me

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            #43
                            Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

                            Originally posted by The Underdog
                            I'd like to see Grant dropped but mainly just to see what level of postal BT gets to.

                            I agree but think it should be Dale and Talia out. Could possibly see Hrovat for Daniel too.
                            Think Michael Douglas in Falling Down. To begin with. I don't want Hrovat, I want Grant.

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                            • ReLoad
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1450

                              #44
                              Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

                              Hooker for the bumbers is totally on fire, he is marking anything that comes in his direction at the minute, and likewise Daniher has his tail up too. We are going to need to bring in at least one of Roberts, Roughy and Hamling if we are to compete, Ideally 2 of these guys.

                              Wood was totally ineffectual given he was minding a player on the weekend, which we cannot afford against essendoom.

                              The Bombers are actually not playing bad footy and have pretty much a full squad (minus the son of a weatherman).

                              Calls to bring back Hrovat are interesting, he hasn't set the world on fire at all, in saying that Dale and to a lesser extent Prudden haven't been wild either (I was happy with Prudden on the weekend though)

                              Finally there is no way Grant should be the sub. if anything have him run his guts out for 3/4 then sub him off, we know he is good at covering ground.

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                              • Mantis
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 15322

                                #45
                                Re: Match Committee - Round 18 vs Essendon

                                Originally posted by Smads57
                                Having watched the VFL game live yesterday, I'd only consider Hrovat for promotion. Although Zaine played well, Bevo mentioned in his presser that he expects Hamling and Fletch to be right to go next week. I'd keep Roughy out for another week so he can get his back right for the run home.

                                In Hamling, Fletch
                                Out Dale, Grant
                                We aren't going to play Roberts, Hamling and Talia in the same team.

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