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  • bresker

    #1

    Doogs

    Am I missing something or have West Coast traded him way under the odds?

    Training is not the same as match conditions, but from what I've seen so far we've picked up a bargain.

    He's tall with a long reach; is quick for a big guy; seems to be able to work his opponent around by drifting up the ground and to the flanks; leads and presents well; is well physically developed and isn't afraid of taking a pack mark.

    Even if he gets his hands to the ball like Adam Morgan was doing he'll be worth something, but I think he's capable of far more.

    I'm not going to carried away until I've seen him doing something in a real match, but at the moment I'm more exicted about Doogs arrival than Darcy's return.

    Has anyone got any feedback on his goalkicking? I haven't seen him take many set shots yet.
  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #2
    Re: Doogs

    Originally posted by bresker
    Am I missing something or have West Coast traded him way under the odds?

    Training is not the same as match conditions, but from what I've seen so far we've picked up a bargain.

    He's tall with a long reach; is quick for a big guy; seems to be able to work his opponent around by drifting up the ground and to the flanks; leads and presents well; is well physically developed and isn't afraid of taking a pack mark.

    Even if he gets his hands to the ball like Adam Morgan was doing he'll be worth something, but I think he's capable of far more.

    I'm not going to carried away until I've seen him doing something in a real match, but at the moment I'm more exicted about Doogs arrival than Darcy's return.

    Has anyone got any feedback on his goalkicking? I haven't seen him take many set shots yet.
    What the Eagles did is facilitate a trade for a player that they didn't want so that he could go to a team that should be able to use his services.

    Basically the Eagles knew that they couldn't get a 2nd reound draft pick for Doogs given the strength of the draft so decided to upgrade a couple of selections.
    They were probably going to delist him anyway.

    As for his goal kicking, it's not something that I have seen him working on. I doubt it is a real strength of his though. When he is in form he is a fine contested mark and that is how I think we intend to use him.

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    • westdog54
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6686

      #3
      Re: Doogs

      Originally posted by bresker
      Am I missing something or have West Coast traded him way under the odds?

      Training is not the same as match conditions, but from what I've seen so far we've picked up a bargain.

      He's tall with a long reach; is quick for a big guy; seems to be able to work his opponent around by drifting up the ground and to the flanks; leads and presents well; is well physically developed and isn't afraid of taking a pack mark.

      Even if he gets his hands to the ball like Adam Morgan was doing he'll be worth something, but I think he's capable of far more.

      I'm not going to carried away until I've seen him doing something in a real match, but at the moment I'm more exicted about Doogs arrival than Darcy's return.

      Has anyone got any feedback on his goalkicking? I haven't seen him take many set shots yet.
      From What I've gathered from readings on BF, his biggest problem at West Coast was his attitude, he'd made it clear that football wasn't his number 1 priority, and that he wasn't enjoying himself in Perth.

      I've only been to one training session this year, but it happened to be the one where Doogs and Mitch were doing stair runs next to us. The thing that stuck out for me is even doing the menial stuff, he looked happy to be here. Perhaps he's turned a corner mentally and playing good footy has moved up on his list of priorities. If that's happened, he'll be a fine acquisition.

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      • Dry Rot
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6471

        #4
        Re: Doogs

        FWIW, some eagles on BF claim he has trained the house down in previous seasons then failed to deliver.

        Who knows? Hopefully with a change of scenery, club and coach, plus being a year older will result in him playing to his potential at last.
        The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27682

          #5
          Re: Doogs

          Originally posted by Dry Rot
          FWIW, some eagles on BF claim he has trained the house down in previous seasons then failed to deliver.


          They would say that though, wouldnt they?
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • BulldogBelle
            WOOF Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 5284

            #6
            Re: Doogs

            Originally posted by Dry Rot
            Who knows? Hopefully with a change of scenery, club and coach, plus being a year older will result in him playing to his potential at last.
            You know what they say - A change is as good as a holiday! He just might prove a few people wrong and be a perfect fit at the Dogs.

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            • Dry Rot
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 6471

              #7
              Re: Doogs

              Originally posted by Twodogs
              They would say that though, wouldnt they?
              You posted somewhere else that McD has been training at FF - makes me wonder what Eade's plans are for darcy.
              The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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              • Hard Ball Get

                #8
                Re: Doogs

                Originally posted by Twodogs
                They would say that though, wouldnt they?
                They were saying that before he was traded though.
                As soon as his name went up these things were being said.

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                • Dry Rot
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6471

                  #9
                  Re: Doogs

                  Originally posted by Hard Ball Get
                  They were saying that before he was traded though.
                  As soon as his name went up these things were being said.
                  True.

                  Also interesting that there are some staunch WCE defenders of him too who reckon he will be a player.
                  The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                  • Hard Ball Get

                    #10
                    Re: Doogs

                    Originally posted by Dry Rot
                    True.

                    Also interesting that there are some staunch WCE defenders of him too who reckon he will be a player.
                    Exactly.
                    There were people who were passionate on both sides.
                    I'm quite happy to have him down and I think that maybe a change might do him some good.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: Doogs

                      Originally posted by Hard Ball Get
                      They were saying that before he was traded though.
                      As soon as his name went up these things were being said.
                      Yes he had both supporters and knockers while he was at West Coast and I doubt that will go away anytime soon until he puts up some consistent games for us. He is the real wild card for our team as far as I am concerned.

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                      • westdog54
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6686

                        #12
                        Re: Doogs

                        The beauty of the McDougall deal is that all we really gave up to get him was a spot on the list, and slightly downgraded draft picks, which were still used as intended by Scott Clayton. We can afford for Doogs to be a wildcard/speculator in some ways. All we gave up for Doogs is Adam Morgan, who, since he was delisted, was finished at the club anyway.

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                        • Dry Rot
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6471

                          #13
                          Re: Doogs

                          Eade has succeeded in getting most of our players to improve, and gave non-triers like Bowden and Rawlings the arse.

                          Perhaps McDougall will be one of the toughest projects for Eade, but if he really succeeds then it will be the trade of the year.
                          The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                          • The Coon Dog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7579

                            #14
                            Re: Doogs

                            It's horses for courses. Some players fare better in different teams for a variety of different reasons.

                            I know the West Coast supporters on BF seem to take great delight in knocking Doogs. He may just not have fitted in & with the improvement over there of Quentin Lynch, he struggled.

                            In some ways Patrick Bowden found a spot & slotted in perfectly at Richmond, tho with Lindsay Gilbee at the Bulldogs Bowden was never going to be able to play that same role with us, as I say, horses for courses.

                            If Doogs doesn't measure up then it's his own fault & we haven't really lost too much (as was pointed out earlier, we just dropped back a few picks in R2 & 4 of the draft & still got who we watnted anyway). The upside tho if he clicks is that it gives us just so much more flexibility.

                            Be very interesting to see how both he & Polak (DR's love child) fare in different environments.
                            [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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                            • Dry Rot
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6471

                              #15
                              Re: Doogs

                              Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                              Polak (DR's love child)
                              I call him Graeme
                              The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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