Is Roughead really in our best 22 - Right Now?

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66198

    #31
    Re: Is Roughead really in our best 22 - Right Now?

    Originally posted by Rocco Jones
    It's Roughy, Roberts and Campbell into 2 spots.

    Is Roughy a better KPD option than Roberts next week?
    Are you happy with Hamling at the moment?
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    • Rocco Jones
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jun 2008
      • 6924

      #32
      Re: Is Roughead really in our best 22 - Right Now?

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Are you happy with Hamling at the moment?
      Not really. None of our KP defenders, forwards or rucks are in 'good' form at the moment (not counting Stringer as a KPP).

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      • Rocco Jones
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jun 2008
        • 6924

        #33
        Re: Is Roughead really in our best 22 - Right Now?

        Our league best small-medium defenders and forwards really cover up for our league worst KPPs.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #34
          Re: Is Roughead really in our best 22 - Right Now?

          On a day when Lions had 35 shots on goal, Roberts and Hamling held their tall forwards largely ineffectual.

          Not sure why everyone is down on them.

          For me, the question is more whether Campbell offers anything in the Ruck that Roughy doesn't?

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          • Nuggety Back Pocket
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 2064

            #35
            Re: Is Roughead really in our best 22 - Right Now?

            Originally posted by Rocco Jones
            It's Roughy, Roberts and Campbell into 2 spots.

            Is Roughy a better KPD option than Roberts next week?
            On what we saw yesterday you could expect Roughead to replace Roberts in defence and to play on Jenkins/ Jacobs. I would be happy to see Campbell or Minson take over in the ruck.

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            • Greystache
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              #36
              Re: Is Roughead really in our best 22 - Right Now?

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              It's probably got a lot to do with his shoulders and not being able to push himself as hard in the gym.
              He also trimmed down noticeably when we started playing him as a key defender to help his mobility. He totally changed his body shape.
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              • Greystache
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Dec 2009
                • 9775

                #37
                Re: Is Roughead really in our best 22 - Right Now?

                At least when can finally end the myth that Roughy is a ruckman/forward waiting to explode who was being held back by an incompetent coach who made him play in defence. He's a terrible forward, an average ruck, and has played easily the best footy of his AFL career when he was fit and playing in defence. I'd like to see him set himself to be a key defender who does a 5 minute burst in the ruck from time to time. He could at least tailor his preseason to the role he is going to play.
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                • whythelongface
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 4389

                  #38
                  Re: Is Roughead really in our best 22 - Right Now?

                  Originally posted by Greystache
                  At least when can finally end the myth that Roughy is a ruckman/forward waiting to explode who was being held back by an incompetent coach who made him play in defence. He's a terrible forward, an average ruck, and has played easily the best footy of his AFL career when he was fit and playing in defence. I'd like to see him set himself to be a key defender who does a 5 minute burst in the ruck from time to time. He could at least tailor his preseason to the role he is going to play.
                  As much as I hate to agree with you on this (as I always held hope that his best position was in the ruck) I think you are pretty much spot on, barring one or two decent ruck performances eg. Goldstein. Whilst I do think now that his best position is a FB, I would also like to see him have bursts as a ruck and occasionally provide an option forward. Thus for the EF I would like to see him drop back to defence and take the spot of Roberts.

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                  • Cyberdoggie
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 2859

                    #39
                    Re: Is Roughead really in our best 22 - Right Now?

                    Roughy's problem is that he doesn't excel in any one particular role.

                    Bevo is all about versatility and Roughy has that but if he can't be a lock for any one particular role then he may struggle to find a place in the team if others come knocking.

                    Let's say Roberts and Hamling nail down those key posts, and Morris plays another year. Most likely we will trade for a ruckman like Martin who can play play like a midfielder and still be dominant ruck. What happens to Roughy then?

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                    • Remi Moses
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 14785

                      #40
                      Re: Is Roughead really in our best 22 - Right Now?

                      Roughy's body just can't stand the rigours of playing in the ruck .
                      He's injuries are becoming a major concern

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44359

                        #41
                        Re: Is Roughead really in our best 22 - Right Now?

                        Originally posted by Greystache
                        At least when can finally end the myth that Roughy is a ruckman/forward waiting to explode who was being held back by an incompetent coach who made him play in defence. He's a terrible forward, an average ruck, and has played easily the best footy of his AFL career when he was fit and playing in defence. I'd like to see him set himself to be a key defender who does a 5 minute burst in the ruck from time to time. He could at least tailor his preseason to the role he is going to play.
                        The only probably I think he faces when rucking is around consistency and fitness. I've mentioned it a few times but I think he would have a problem trying to back up a good game week after week.

                        The highlighted is exactly my position on how we can best use him.
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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #42
                          Re: Is Roughead really in our best 22 - Right Now?

                          Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                          On what we saw yesterday you could expect Roughead to replace Roberts in defence and to play on Jenkins/ Jacobs. I would be happy to see Campbell or Minson take over in the ruck.
                          Why would that be? Roberts was fine down back and roughhead was one of our worst performed, the more i watch of roughead the more i think he wont make it.

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