Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

    Originally posted by bornadog
    I look at all our players on the field and they pretty much all contributed, except probably Honeychurch and I to am still wondering how we lost.

    In the end it was not taking our chances with missed goals. I also think we bombed the ball long and deep into our forward line too often instead of hitting a target around the 50 metre mark.
    That's so true. It struck me on the night at the end of the match as the players ratings/scores scrolled, that (other than HC/Daniel) the bottom 7 or 8 rated players were all Crows. Other than goalkicking we were significantly the better team. It's a hard loss to cop - just hope lessons have been learnt.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66621

      Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

      MRP

      Bob fined $1000 for rough conduct on Charlie Cameron.

      Murphy's off-the-ball hit was slightly high, being assessed as careless conduct with low impact to the head.
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      • bulldogsthru&thru
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • May 2011
        • 7708

        Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

        Originally posted by bornadog
        MRP

        Bob fined $1000 for rough conduct on Charlie Cameron.

        Murphy's off-the-ball hit was slightly high, being assessed as careless conduct with low impact to the head.
        When in the bloody hell did this happen?

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        • Murphy'sLore
          WOOF Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 2085

          Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

          I must have blinked for that bit.

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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

            So how long is appropriate to start running down the clock.
            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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            • Greystache
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

              I echo the thoughts of TBB and Sedat, Saturday night was shattering. Not because we lost, we're a young team who'd come a long way in one season, but more so because we saw another generation of players coming through who failed to take the moment when it arose on the big stage. We were easily the better team on the day but found a way to lose. I'd convinced myself that unlike the 99 draft group, or the 300 group before that that, the likes of Bonti and Stringer would lift for the big moment and drag us over the line. Sadly Bonti missed 3 very gettable chances when we had a chance to ice the game, Stringer was largely unsighted, and several others missed their moment.

              That's not to say they won't deliver next time, but I had no faith Boyd or Murphy would deliver at the big moment based on previous form and I wasn't disappointed this time, and it's hard to have faith we won't keep seeing the same thing time and time again.
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              • Bornadog
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                • Jan 2007
                • 66621

                Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                Originally posted by Greystache
                I had no faith Boyd or Murphy would deliver at the big moment based on previous form and I wasn't disappointed this time
                So your saying they played a bad game.
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                • Sedat
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 11228

                  Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                  Originally posted by Greystache
                  I echo the thoughts of TBB and Sedat, Saturday night was shattering. Not because we lost, we're a young team who'd come a long way in one season, but more so because we saw another generation of players coming through who failed to take the moment when it arose on the big stage. We were easily the better team on the day but found a way to lose. I'd convinced myself that unlike the 99 draft group, or the 300 group before that that, the likes of Bonti and Stringer would lift for the big moment and drag us over the line. Sadly Bonti missed 3 very gettable chances when we had a chance to ice the game, Stringer was largely unsighted, and several others missed their moment.

                  That's not to say they won't deliver next time, but I had no faith Boyd or Murphy would deliver at the big moment based on previous form and I wasn't disappointed this time, and it's hard to have faith we won't keep seeing the same thing time and time again.
                  Agree with everything you've written, except for Bob's game on the weekend. Indeed he was the catalyst for that final surge through Adelaide's press that should have resulted in what would have in all likelihood been the winning goal for us. He was brave, uninhibited and classy with his disposal - thought he was the one senior player who showed real leadership for us on Saturday night. Sadly, Boyd returned to type at the most inopportune moment for us.

                  Bont's 3 misses (and especially the lack of a give-off when he kicked out of bounds in the last qtr), Stringer's lack of a give-off to Wally, Crameri's long bombs to Adelaide's defenders, the Hunter missed handball and Crameri inability to move the ball on to a free Grant, these are the moments that cost us big time. Even taking into account the missed set shots and the terrible lack of defensive running from halfway through the 1st qtr to half time, it ended up being a game of moments, and how many times do we ultimately fail to grasp our moments while the opposition ruthlessly take theirs?

                  It's by no means terminal for us moving forward - plenty of teams in recent history suffer heartbreaking losses in finals through lack of composure and are steeled by the experience. I am confident that the next generation are steeled by this experience rather than it becoming a millstone around their necks.
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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66621

                    Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                    Originally posted by Sedat
                    Agree with everything you've written, except for Bob's game on the weekend. Indeed he was the catalyst for that final surge through Adelaide's press that should have resulted in what would have in all likelihood been the winning goal for us. He was brave, uninhibited and classy with his disposal - thought he was the one senior player who showed real leadership for us on Saturday night. Sadly, Boyd returned to type at the most inopportune moment for us.

                    Bont's 3 misses (and especially the lack of a give-off when he kicked out of bounds in the last qtr), Stringer's lack of a give-off to Wally, Crameri's long bombs to Adelaide's defenders, the Hunter missed handball and Crameri inability to move the ball on to a free Grant, these are the moments that cost us big time. Even taking into account the missed set shots and the terrible lack of defensive running from halfway through the 1st qtr to half time, it ended up being a game of moments, and how many times do we ultimately fail to grasp our moments while the opposition ruthlessly take theirs?

                    It's by no means terminal for us moving forward - plenty of teams in recent history suffer heartbreaking losses in finals through lack of composure and are steeled by the experience. I am confident that the next generation are steeled by this experience rather than it becoming a millstone around their necks.
                    Good assessment. I think on Boyd, he should have played in Brisbane to keep the momentum of his good form.
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                    • Greystache
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9775

                      Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      So your saying they played a bad game.
                      No I thought he was pretty good, but when the time came for someone to step up and do something extraordinary to win their team the match I didn't think it would be either Murphy or Boyd. It turned out to be Walker.
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                      • Bornadog
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                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66621

                        Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                        Originally posted by Greystache
                        No I thought he was pretty good, but when the time came for someone to step up and do something extraordinary to win their team the match I didn't think it would be either Murphy or Boyd. It turned out to be Walker.
                        Murphy did everything in his power to get the ball to Hunter who unfortunately stuffed up the handball. Could have been a different story, wasn't Murphy's fault.
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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15414

                          Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                          Originally posted by Greystache
                          No I thought he was pretty good, but when the time came for someone to step up and do something extraordinary to win their team the match I didn't think it would be either Murphy or Boyd. It turned out to be Walker.
                          If we are expecting or relying on Murphy or Boyd to do something extraordinary to win us games then we might as well give it away now.

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                          • Greystache
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 9775

                            Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            If we are expecting or relying on Murphy or Boyd to do something extraordinary to win us games then we might as well give it away now.
                            Given nearly every other player is under 22 who would you expect to lift at the big moment? I would've thought your 200 gamers who've just made the All Australian squad would be the obvious candidates.
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                            • Mantis
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 15414

                              Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                              Originally posted by Greystache
                              Given nearly every other player is under 22 who would you expect to lift at the big moment? I would've thought your 200 gamers who've just made the All Australian squad would be the obvious candidates.
                              There inlies one of our problems, we just don't that big moment player yet.. A few of our potential candidiates didn't step up when their opportunity arose this time around, but I'm confident that they will into the future.

                              Murphy & Boyd are there to add some stability, support and experience to a young side, they aren't there to be our match-winners.

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66621

                                Re: Game Day Round EF 2015 - Western Bulldogs vs Adelaide Crows

                                This is interesting:

                                Breakdown wk1 finals

                                Total ntl Audience - 5,952,049:
                                WCoast/Haw – 1,711,676.
                                Frem/Syd – 1,376,271.
                                WB/Adel – 1,503,840.
                                Rich/Nth – 1,360,262.
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