Jordan Roughead in 2016

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66701

    #31
    Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

    Anyone else concerned with Roughead's output this season. I don't think he has been that good in the ruck, although he hasn't been too bad around the ground.

    2016 Games Log for Jordan Roughead (Western Bulldogs)
    Description Date Opponent Result
    Round 9 22nd May GWS Loss 73-98 6 5 11 4 0 1 5 12 0 1 0 1 70 72
    Round 8 15th May Melbourne Win 114-82 6 3 9 1 0 1 3 2 0 2 3 0 45 45
    Round 7 7th May Adelaide Win 123-108 7 10 17 5 0 0 4 13 1 7 1 0 86 89
    Round 6 29th Apr North Melbourne Loss 45-61 1 2 3 2 0 1 3 11 0 0 0 0 37 26
    Round 5 23rd Apr Brisbane Win 120-67 6 7 13 4 1 0 5 11 0 2 1 2 76 74
    Round 4 16th Apr Carlton Win 85-49 6 6 12 3 0 0 4 16 0 2 1 0 72 82
    Round 3 10th Apr Hawthorn Loss 90-93 5 9 14 4 1 0 4 22 1 1 1 2 84 98
    Round 2 2nd Apr St Kilda Win 93-36 4 6 10 3 0 0 4 26 0 2 1 0 76 67
    Round 1 27th Mar Fremantle Win 103-38 5 6 11 3 1 0 5 21 0 2 0 1 80 95
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11245

      #32
      Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

      I reckon the tandem of Roughy and Campbell (and Boyd before that) has worked as well as could be expected. No ruckman has taken us to the cleaners as yet - indeed we have successfully nullified some of the best ruckmen in the comp this season already.

      There was the small issue of his cousins cancer diagnosis last week - if Hawthorn players get a leave pass for their performance this weekend (rightly so too), I'd have thought Jordan deserves one as well (not that he was awful yesterday).
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14946

        #33
        Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

        I'm worried that both Roughy & BTC are first rucks and can't play much of a second ruck role effectively.
        BTC has overtaken Roughy for mine and if we had BTC, Roughy, Redpath & Boyd all firing, I'd actually look to drop Roughy fromt he lot as BTC can take the bulk of the ruckwork with Tom Boyd taking the second role, while leaving Redpath 100% in the forwardline where he has been effective.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11841

          #34
          Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

          Originally posted by Mofra
          I'm worried that both Roughy & BTC are first rucks and can't play much of a second ruck role effectively.
          BTC has overtaken Roughy for mine and if we had BTC, Roughy, Redpath & Boyd all firing, I'd actually look to drop Roughy fromt he lot as BTC can take the bulk of the ruckwork with Tom Boyd taking the second role, while leaving Redpath 100% in the forwardline where he has been effective.
          It feels like BTC is also more likely to see out a game, preventing the scenario where we throw Boyd to the wolves
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          • The Bulldogs Bite
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 11245

            #35
            Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

            Originally posted by Mofra
            I'm worried that both Roughy & BTC are first rucks and can't play much of a second ruck role effectively.
            BTC has overtaken Roughy for mine and if we had BTC, Roughy, Redpath & Boyd all firing, I'd actually look to drop Roughy fromt he lot as BTC can take the bulk of the ruckwork with Tom Boyd taking the second role, while leaving Redpath 100% in the forwardline where he has been effective.
            This is what I hope we trial when Boyd is fit.

            Roughead has been OK this season but as a ruck you need to be able to play forward and he can't.
            W00F!

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            • Throughandthrough
              Coaching Staff
              • Nov 2007
              • 3201

              #36
              Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

              Without analysing any stats, i have been very disappointed with his form this year. I'm guessing that as soon as Boyd is fit again he'd be a straight swap for Roughy.

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              • lemmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6521

                #37
                Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

                He's a first ruck and unfortunately for him we have a better one in Campbell. I think his form has been okay particularly early but I don't think the Cambell/Rough combo is sustainable with both incapable of producing anything up forward.

                Agree with some previous calls that when fit Boyd comes in, Rough out and we see how much of the load Campbell can shoulder. He is apparenly ultra fit, if he can ruck 80% of the game it makes us far more flexible

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                • boydogs
                  WOOF Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5844

                  #38
                  Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

                  I think Roughead is playing as a ruckman tagger and is why Gawn, Goldstein, Martin & Jacobs have all been shutdown. You can't judge that on his stats, only the stats of his opponent
                  If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                  Formerly gogriff

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66701

                    #39
                    Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

                    Originally posted by boydogs
                    I think Roughead is playing as a ruckman tagger and is why Gawn, Goldstein, Martin & Jacobs have all been shutdown. You can't judge that on his stats, only the stats of his opponent
                    I think you may a good point here, and that is the reason we haven't seen him much in the forward line when we didn't have TBoyd or Redpath playing.
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66701

                      #40
                      Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

                      How good has Roughie been in the first two finals. Kicked a couple of goals as well.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #41
                        Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        How good has Roughie been in the first two finals. Kicked a couple of goals as well.
                        He's certainly showing he's an excellently better ruckman than any other position. Great reward for his effort and towards two great finals wins.
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                        • josie
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 4482

                          #42
                          Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

                          Roughy's marking and goal kicking and presence are much improved in last few weeks - he is a very valuable and reliable player. He is growing in confidence and against Hawks I thought he was best big man on the ground and in our top 6 or so players. I also love the romance of him barracking for dogs as a child. Plus he is such a committed chap doing volunteer work with homeless, helping out with women's team, studying business and becoming a really good player to boot. Saw him at VFL game on Sunday and was able to tell him what a great game he played and got a lovely smile in return.
                          Josie :)

                          Our day will come
                          And we'll have everything.
                          We'll share the joy
                          Just like '54 again.

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                          • Dancin' Douggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 2876

                            #43
                            Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

                            Yep. Like so many he has risen to the occasion and blossomed in the finals

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                            • always right
                              WOOF Member
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 4189

                              #44
                              Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

                              Whilst his form has been great lately his marking has been a feature all season. Can't get over how much this part of his game has improved.
                              I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                              • Ghost Dog
                                WOOF Member
                                • May 2010
                                • 9404

                                #45
                                Re: Jordan Roughead in 2016

                                Moving very freely, loved the CD to Roughy goal in Perth. Similar clearing kick V Hawthorn. All players getting around him, great signs.
                                You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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