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  • chef
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 14746

    #1

    Operation get Stefan Martin.

    We are desperate for a gun ruck and this guy would fit us and our style perfectly.

    I'll happily give up our first rounder to make it happen, though I'm sure the club would be a bit more sensible.

    Maybe Grant could be involved in the trade with Brisbane making a play for him a while back.
    The curse is dead.
  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9901

    #2
    Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

    Alarm bells ring for giving up our first round pick for someone who is 29 years old. I know we have to give something to get him but would not include that pick. That's just me.

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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14746

      #3
      Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

      What did we give up for Huddo?
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      • G-Mo77
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Apr 2007
        • 9901

        #4
        Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

        Originally posted by chef
        What did we give up for Huddo?
        Not much from memory. Late 2nd round I think but it was a different scenario.

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          #5
          Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

          They won't give a first rounder for a 29 year old
          A second rounder most likely

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 67688

            #6
            Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

            Originally posted by chef
            Maybe Grant could be involved in the trade with Brisbane making a play for him a while back.
            I know you are not a fan of Grant, but I think we should be hanging on to players in the 25 to 28 year bracket. We have a big gap in this area because we keep getting rid of these guys. You need foot soldiers and players with some experience.
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            • FrediKanoute
              Coaching Staff
              • Aug 2007
              • 3891

              #7
              Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

              Originally posted by bornadog
              I know you are not a fan of Grant, but I think we should be hanging on to players in the 25 to 28 year bracket. We have a big gap in this area because we keep getting rid of these guys. You need foot soldiers and players with some experience.
              Agree. Far from our worst this year and in all honesty a key link up player. If we can improve on him maybe, buthard to see who from the VFL side would come in and shift him.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

                Brisbane are pretty desperate for key forwards, would Martin for Redpath be about doable.

                Martin is a better player, but Redpath has a lot more years left.

                Maybe a little trade of draft picks as well.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #9
                  Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

                  Pick 11 for Martin... I think they win that trade somehow.
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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 45531

                    #10
                    Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

                    Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                    Brisbane are pretty desperate for key forwards, would Martin for Redpath be about doable.

                    Martin is a better player, but Redpath has a lot more years left.

                    Maybe a little trade of draft picks as well.
                    They can't allow Martin to go given they are likely to lose Leuy as well and because Martin has a contract they would expect someone to pay overs before they would consider it.
                    By the way, I'm not sure they are desperate for marginal key forwards. They have McGuane, Freeman and McStay plays there as well.
                    Like us, they need good players with a bit of experience. I don't think Redders would be on their radar
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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      They can't allow Martin to go given they are likely to lose Leuy as well and because Martin has a contract they would expect someone to pay overs before they would consider it.
                      By the way, I'm not sure they are desperate for marginal key forwards. They have McGuane, Freeman and McStay plays there as well.
                      Like us, they need good players with a bit of experience. I don't think Redders would be on their radar
                      Leppitsch is on the record as saying Lions main requirement is a key forward, has said it a number of times. If Leuenberger
                      is the one more likely to leave, maybe he's the one we should be trading for, either would be a good fit for us.

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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14746

                        #12
                        Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

                        Yeah, they are not going to trade him unless they are going to win the trade.

                        Maybe our first pick for him and their second or maybe a second and a Grant/Talia/Hrovat type.

                        We get a dominant ruck and we are well on our way to pressing for top 4 next season.
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                        • The Bulldogs Bite
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 11407

                          #13
                          Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

                          Originally posted by chef
                          Yeah, they are not going to trade him unless they are going to win the trade.

                          Maybe our first pick for him and their second or maybe a second and a Grant/Talia/Hrovat type.

                          We get a dominant ruck and we are well on our way to pressing for top 4 next season.
                          Martin would be a great pick up, but a first round pick for a 29 year old ruck? Pass. I'd rather Kreuzer for nothing.

                          We obviously need to address the ruck issue, but I disagree it's standing between us and the top four - we have other pressing issues with the list. The only game that I can think of where we were really exposed was v Nic Nat. Other games, which include the 2 v Adelaide and 1 v Norf we may have "lost" the ruck position but it was far from the deciding factor.

                          Still agree we need a good ruck, but I wouldn't be selling the farm for it.
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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 45531

                            #14
                            Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

                            Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                            Leppitsch is on the record as saying Lions main requirement is a key forward, has said it a number of times. If Leuenberger is the one more likely to leave, maybe he's the one we should be trading for, either would be a good fit for us.
                            The yet word in my first explanation was marginal. Redders might be big but he isn't a proven key forward yet.

                            Leuy has struggled and given the Lions get compensated for him they probably wouldn't be overly upset to see him go.
                            It means that they must keep Martin though and it opens up a question of if Leuy is much better than what we have?
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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 45531

                              #15
                              Re: Operation get Stefan Martin.

                              Originally posted by chef
                              Yeah, they are not going to trade him unless they are going to win the trade.

                              Maybe our first pick for him and their second or maybe a second and a Grant/Talia/Hrovat type.

                              We get a dominant ruck and we are well on our way to pressing for top 4 next season.
                              Yep, they would have to find a team willing to pay overs and ideally they would also need a decent player. They badly need experienced players.
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