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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #76
    Re: Round 1 2016 team

    Originally posted by Jam Donuts
    Correct, however, there are a few who would look a lot better with a good pre season under them, also some body size increases over the summer would be welcome, the size difference in the final against Adelaide was very noticeable, our youngsters will be just about unstoppable once their bodies develop some more, I cannot wait, as I may have mentioned before I have followed this team and attended games since 1959, this is without doubt the best list we have had in that time, they are the real deal.
    I'm only 36 but I agree that this is the best dogs list I've seen in my time too. I'm excited to see the group develop together!

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    • stefoid
      Senior Player
      • Dec 2009
      • 1846

      #77
      Re: Round 1 2016 team

      I think we have enough key defensive and ruck prospects. Its a case of whoever performs best from the obvious candidates gets the gig.

      What Im wondering is who are our prospective key forwards. Boyd and Redpath are the only obvious ones. So will Adams, Fletch or Hamling also be considered? They have all played forward before, in lower comps.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #78
        Re: Round 1 2016 team



        AFL website had a crack at our (and all others) best 22. Did a pretty fair job.

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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15449

          #79
          Re: Round 1 2016 team

          Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
          http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-2...st-22-for-2016

          AFL website had a crack at our (and all others) best 22. Did a pretty fair job.
          The Bont would have to be the tallest rover of all time!

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66773

            #80
            Re: Round 1 2016 team

            Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
            http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-2...st-22-for-2016

            AFL website had a crack at our (and all others) best 22. Did a pretty fair job.
            The major flaw with that team is Roughead is yet to prove he can be the number one ruckman. Based on last year, Minson is still the best ruckman we have and he proved that with a pretty good performance in the finals. I am talking right now and not the future.
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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #81
              Re: Round 1 2016 team

              Originally posted by Mantis
              The Bont would have to be the tallest rover of all time!
              It does look a bit ridiculous. For the sake of appearances, they should probably list Bont Centre, Wallis RR and Libba Rover, although these days it's all really the same thing. Love to know Bonts precise height, from photos looks like he could've grown slightly again (turned 20 through the week). One more cm and he will be the same height as Chris Grant.

              Originally posted by bornadog
              The major flaw with that team is Roughead is yet to prove he can be the number one ruckman. Based on last year, Minson is still the best ruckman we have and he proved that with a pretty good performance in the finals. I am talking right now and not the future.
              I think we all pencil in the Ruckman warily. Roughy/Campbell or Minson all have fair claims, it will probably come down to preseason form. Unless one of them progresses dramatically (or in Minson's case regains best form), they'll probably all get a turn throughout the year.

              From a best 22/structural point of view, I guess the big query is whether we have room to go with Minson/Cambell and play Roughy off the bench as a 2nd Ruck/tall utility. With new I/C rules, there is speculation that there is greater scope for teams to revert back to a tall utility type option.

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              • Bulldog4life
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 9607

                #82
                Re: Round 1 2016 team

                Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                It does look a bit ridiculous. For the sake of appearances, they should probably list Bont Centre, Wallis RR and Libba Rover, although these days it's all really the same thing. Love to know Bonts precise height, from photos looks like he could've grown slightly again (turned 20 through the week). One more cm and he will be the same height as Chris Grant.



                I think we all pencil in the Ruckman warily. Roughy/Campbell or Minson all have fair claims, it will probably come down to preseason form. Unless one of them progresses dramatically (or in Minson's case regains best form), they'll probably all get a turn throughout the year.

                From a best 22/structural point of view, I guess the big query is whether we have room to go with Minson/Cambell and play Roughy off the bench as a 2nd Ruck/tall utility. With new I/C rules, there is speculation that there is greater scope for teams to revert back to a tall utility type option.
                Will be interesting who gets first dibs. Watched the replay of the North game last night and Roughy played very well against Goldstein. Although it helped when Big Jack kneed Goldstein in the hip in a ruck contest. I think with a full pre season training as a ruck/forward as well as being Bevo's favourite Roughy is the man initially.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #83
                  Re: Round 1 2016 team

                  Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                  B: Wood, Roberts, Morris
                  HB: M.Boyd, Hamling, Murphy
                  C: Picken, Wallis, Macrae
                  HF: Stevens, Crameri, Dahlhaus
                  F: Stringer, T.Boyd, Dickson
                  R: Roughead, Bontempelli, Liberatore
                  I/C: Suckling, Hunter, Johannisen, Biggs
                  -----------------------------------------------
                  A fair bit of rotation with HB/wing now. I see Suckling in a more advance role, continuation/progression of role he played for the Hawks this year. Biggs and JJ can also spend a bit of time up the ground. It gives us greater flexibility with match ups/back line structure.

                  Daniel and McLean out of the 22 but with injuries/rotations they will have no problems getting a game.
                  It's also interesting to look at the rest of the list from a depth perspective. Given the above, how would Foosccray's team look in R1? Maybe something like:

                  B: Adams/Collins/Prudden
                  HB: Adcock/Cordy/Webb
                  C: Williams/Dunkley/Dale
                  HF: Daniel/Redpath/McLean
                  F: Honeychurch/Campbell/Hamilton
                  R: Minson/Jong/Hrovat
                  I/C: Lynch, Goetz, Footscray players (C.Smith, RSmith to return)

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                  • Cyberdoggie
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 2859

                    #84
                    Re: Round 1 2016 team

                    Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                    It's also interesting to look at the rest of the list from a depth perspective. Given the above, how would Foosccray's team look in R1? Maybe something like:

                    B: Adams/Collins/Prudden
                    HB: Adcock/Cordy/Webb
                    C: Williams/Dunkley/Dale
                    HF: Daniel/Redpath/McLean
                    F: Honeychurch/Campbell/Hamilton
                    R: Minson/Jong/Hrovat
                    I/C: Lynch, Goetz, Footscray players (C.Smith, RSmith to return)
                    that's a pretty strong second 11

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #85
                      Re: Round 1 2016 team

                      Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
                      that's a pretty strong second 11
                      Yeah I thought so. In terms of depth, our backs look really strong (Collins/Adams/Cordy is an exciting group of hungry, talented young key backs) and a good quality, versatile group of mids/flankers.

                      Key forwards is probably our main issue, with Boyd and Redpath really the only 2 we could look at as consistent key position sized options. 3 rucks in the magoos is good but really need them pressing hard.

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13237

                        #86
                        Re: Round 1 2016 team

                        Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                        Will be interesting who gets first dibs. Watched the replay of the North game last night and Roughy played very well against Goldstein. Although it helped when Big Jack kneed Goldstein in the hip in a ruck contest. I think with a full pre season training as a ruck/forward as well as being Bevo's favourite Roughy is the man initially.
                        IMO it will come down largely to who best suits the game plan as it evolves into 2016. Minson was bypassed last year but looks leaner and will compete direct with Tom with Roughie to play back. I'd love Roughie to play ruck but I can't see it happening for more than bursts in a game. It will come down to who covers the ground better, Tom or Will, and is Will's clearance ability valued above Tom's ability to mark the ball and hit the scoreboard.
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • Bulldog4life
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 9607

                          #87
                          Re: Round 1 2016 team

                          Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                          Yeah I thought so. In terms of depth, our backs look really strong (Collins/Adams/Cordy is an exciting group of hungry, talented young key backs) and a good quality, versatile group of mids/flankers.

                          Key forwards is probably our main issue, with Boyd and Redpath really the only 2 we could look at as consistent key position sized options. 3 rucks in the magoos is good but really need them pressing hard.
                          Maybe we can add Adams to the key forward position sized options too.

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                          • Rocket Science
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 4854

                            #88
                            Re: Round 1 2016 team

                            Originally posted by stefoid
                            I think we have enough key defensive and ruck prospects. Its a case of whoever performs best from the obvious candidates gets the gig.

                            What Im wondering is who are our prospective key forwards. Boyd and Redpath are the only obvious ones. So will Adams, Fletch or Hamling also be considered? They have all played forward before, in lower comps.
                            I may be getting slightly carried away with new recruit Collins (guilty) but the highlight reel posted on the club website shows him rather nonchalantly acquitting himself as a key forward. It's just mark and kick type stuff but well, there you go. Perhaps when he's not monstering full forwards he can menace the occasional full back as well.

                            I'm a wee bit excited about what this bloke brings to the table.
                            BORDERLINE FLYING

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                            • Bulldog Revolution
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 3926

                              #89
                              Re: Round 1 2016 team

                              Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                              Will be interesting who gets first dibs. Watched the replay of the North game last night and Roughy played very well against Goldstein. Although it helped when Big Jack kneed Goldstein in the hip in a ruck contest. I think with a full pre season training as a ruck/forward as well as being Bevo's favourite Roughy is the man initially.
                              The problem is that Roughy doesn't seem able to ruck and stay fit for 22+ weeks

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #90
                                Re: Round 1 2016 team

                                Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                                Maybe we can add Adams to the key forward position sized options too.
                                Adams has played forward a fair bit in WA. He did seem to really find his niche when he went back though. I think he's a chance to pinch hit a bit, but it would be a massive ask to hold down a permanent/semi-permanent forward role in the AFL at this stage.

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