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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #16
    Re: Bulldogs Quora

    Originally posted by boydogs
    Why was 1997 so bad? I know we were 20 points up in the last & Libba's shot at goal was given a point, but I don't think that was right at the end. Seems like Adelaide just ran over the top. I was only 13 at the time so haven't completely understood why no-one will even watch it again
    I watched it this year or last on the puff pieces channel 7 do before Sunday arvo games. My advice is don't ever watch it again. I was back guttered like 17-18 years hadn't healed any of the wound. That's as heart broken and soul destroyed as I've ever been at a game of sport. I thought I was a little passed it, but I'm not. So I'm resolved to get back on the wagon and never watch it ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever again. Ever. Never. Never. Never. Never, ever, never, ever, ever, never, ever, never, never, never, never again.

    Never, ever, ever, never, ever, never, ever again.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Ghost Dog
      WOOF Member
      • May 2010
      • 9404

      #17
      Re: Bulldogs Quora

      Oh hi Azabob, Quora is a website were you can ask pretty much anything. It's full of random facts.
      The idea is that maybe the thread will be a bit random, more breadth than depth.
      Also a place where you can ask things and not feel silly for asking them, just cause you are a newbie or missed chunks of Bulldog time.
      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #18
        Re: Bulldogs Quora

        Originally posted by boydogs
        Why was 1997 so bad? I know we were 20 points up in the last & Libba's shot at goal was given a point, but I don't think that was right at the end. Seems like Adelaide just ran over the top. I was only 13 at the time so haven't completely understood why no-one will even watch it again
        Because, like 2009, it's about the closest we've come to the dance floor, and, like 2009, we should've won it. Unfortunately, 4-year-old Michael Talia gave our game plan to his 6-year-old brother and the rest is history.

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        • Doc26
          Coaching Staff
          • Sep 2009
          • 3087

          #19
          Re: Bulldogs Quora

          Originally posted by boydogs
          Why was 1997 so bad? I know we were 20 points up in the last & Libba's shot at goal was given a point, but I don't think that was right at the end. Seems like Adelaide just ran over the top. I was only 13 at the time so haven't completely understood why no-one will even watch it again
          Michael I was just reflecting on your question so here's part of my own experience that may give you some context to the ongoing feelings that us Doggie tragics have towards 'That Game'.

          Obviously being a prelim the prize of a victory was very high for us supporters particularly given that many of us had previously endured the heartbreak of finals losses through previous decades that could've sent us to our prized Grand Final appearance that we've longed for.

          For me the devastation of this particular result most likely stemmed from the build up from what was such a great second quarter where we put on 8 goals and went into the long break with a ~30 point lead. The feeling going in at half-time was as vibrant as I've experienced for us in a final, a real buzz and sense of joy amongst the supporters that finally we will get our chance at the big dance.

          Maybe think about that feeling we had going in at half time against our earlier encounter against the Saints this season gone but then raise the stakes a 1000 fold as we start to witness by a thousand cuts our such promising position erode before our very eyes in a final quarter where we couldn't land a single punch (goal).

          From that almost euphoric feeling at half time, to the extreme tension that had now overcome us in that final quarter and particularly in those final minutes as we fought for our lives was palpable, to the final siren sounding is as devastating a feeling that I've ever encountered in a sporting context (probably much wider).

          By chance I had the pleasure that day to be seated next to Steve McPherson and his partner. I didn't know him previously, just barracked passionately for him from afar throughout his playing years, but as the tension in those final moments of the game reached extremes it was simply too much that it broke Steve's partner so much so that she had to get up and leave. The siren soon sounds and I'm feeling a complete emotional wreck, and looking back now quite bizarrely being consoled with an arm around me by one of my boyhood faves in Steve who himself is a shattered man (and what a wonderful bloke).

          I've watched an untold amount of our past performances back over the years but I still can't find it in me to watch that one back.

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          • Drunken Bum
            Rookie List
            • Sep 2007
            • 435

            #20
            Re: Bulldogs Quora

            Only caught the tail end of Wheelers career but was responsible for one of my favourite bits of footy footage(just tried to find on you tube but no joy) where he was running away from an opponent, half turns and gives him the finger while taking a bounce. May or may not be slightly exaggerated in my mind with time.

            Re. Cox and West, others have already alluded to the rumour, further to that though there was a game where Westy started on the bench (against West Coke?) from memory the game had some significance, but not only did he start on the bench he never came off it, at all, so we played a man down, the whispers were that Cox didn't take to kindly to the situation and Westy ended up with concussion pre game
            My life is a very complicated drinking game.

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13387

              #21
              Re: Bulldogs Quora

              Originally posted by boydogs
              Why was 1997 so bad? I know we were 20 points up in the last & Libba's shot at goal was given a point, but I don't think that was right at the end. Seems like Adelaide just ran over the top. I was only 13 at the time so haven't completely understood why no-one will even watch it again
              Many fans were left completely miffed by some of our match ups, they were very frustrating to the say the least. That and the other team had Darren Jarman who decided to go forward and put on a clinic. I just wish for once we had a superstar to stand up in a prelim.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • Scraggers
                Premiership Moderator
                • Jun 2008
                • 3587

                #22
                Re: Bulldogs Quora

                Originally posted by boydogs
                Why was 1997 so bad? I know we were 20 points up in the last & Libba's shot at goal was given a point, but I don't think that was right at the end. Seems like Adelaide just ran over the top. I was only 13 at the time so haven't completely understood why no-one will even watch it again
                The first rule of 1997 is 'No one talks about 1997' the second rule of 1997 is 'No one talks about 1997'.

                You've been warned Boydogs !!

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                • Scraggers
                  Premiership Moderator
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 3587

                  #23
                  Re: Bulldogs Quora

                  In 97 I was in the Pilbara (Northwest WA) and booking my flights and tickets for the big dance. I won't be doing that again ... Not until it's confirmed we are there.

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14551

                    #24
                    Re: Bulldogs Quora

                    Brad murphy is coach at Melton, is that the right Murphy ?
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15483

                      #25
                      Re: Bulldogs Quora

                      Originally posted by boydogs
                      Why was 1997 so bad? I know we were 20 points up in the last & Libba's shot at goal was given a point, but I don't think that was right at the end. Seems like Adelaide just ran over the top. I was only 13 at the time so haven't completely understood why no-one will even watch it again
                      Also Adelaide were terrible away from home and we were red hot favourites. We were in control for most of the game and just couldn't get the job done.

                      I think it was also fair to say we had the measure of St.Kilda that year also.

                      If anything that was the year, a premiership got away.
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • FrediKanoute
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 3892

                        #26
                        Re: Bulldogs Quora

                        Originally posted by azabob
                        Also Adelaide were terrible away from home and we were red hot favourites. We were in control for most of the game and just couldn't get the job done.

                        I think it was also fair to say we had the measure of St.Kilda that year also.

                        If anything that was the year, a premiership got away.
                        YOu never know what happens on he big day, but I maintain that we would have beaten the Saints.

                        1997.....urgh! So many missed opportunities to ice the game - Mark West, Grant/Huddo, Libba etc - in the end we kept muffing our chances and the Crows took theirs.....completely gut wrenching......

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                        • Missing Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8501

                          #27
                          Re: Bulldogs Quora

                          Originally posted by Scraggers
                          In 97 I was in the Pilbara (Northwest WA) and booking my flights and tickets for the big dance. I won't be doing that again ... Not until it's confirmed we are there.
                          I was in Nairobi Kenya halfway through a 3 month tour of Africa and was doing the same thing never again will I be out of Melbourne for grand final week������

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                          • KT31
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 5455

                            #28
                            Re: Bulldogs Quora

                            Originally posted by strebla
                            I was in Nairobi Kenya halfway through a 3 month tour of Africa and was doing the same thing never again will I be out of Melbourne for grand final week������
                            I watched a few of our supporters leaving at 3/4 time to queue up for tickets for the Grandfinal.

                            Actually now I think about, if I had of left maybe I wouldn't have been so scarred.
                            It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                            • F'scary
                              WOOF Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 4089

                              #29
                              Re: Bulldogs Quora

                              I have a question about Terry Wheeler.

                              Did he really deserve the reputation of being the master of the "squirrel grip?"
                              Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 45569

                                #30
                                Re: Bulldogs Quora

                                Originally posted by F'scary
                                I have a question about Terry Wheeler.

                                Did he really deserve the reputation of being the master of the "squirrel grip?"
                                Hard to say, he certainly would have stretched the rules. It probably happened once or twice and the legend of the nickname grew.

                                I need to check this with Twodogs but I think he creatively got off a swearing at the umpire charge.
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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