Bulldogs reflective - The Trade Period

[Ozza]

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Seems like every year the experts are saying its a 'weak draft' or a 'shallow draft'!

[Happy Days]

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Pick 5 is a massive chip on the trade table. I'd want two good younger players for it, could we get it? I.e.

GWS: Tomlinson & Treloar (Plus Minson? GWS are interested and his salary and Hrovats salary could go the way to covering Treloar)
GCS: Wright & Bennell/etc

Still have picks 30, 31 (Talia) and 48 (Darcy Mac?)

If we get pick 5 I'd just use it in the draft.

[Greystache]

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Seems like every year the experts are saying its a 'weak draft' or a 'shallow draft'!

And that next year's draft is going to be much stronger. The current draft has never been as strong as the next one, ever. I don't take much notice because hindsight hasn't proven the predictions right very often.

[LostDoggy]

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And that next year's draft is going to be much stronger. The current draft has never been as strong as the next one, ever. I don't take much notice because hindsight hasn't proven the predictions right very often.

I don't agree with that. Often the current year's draft is reputed to be very strong and the following year's softer. The predictions are not always right, it's a speculative game after all, but the ones said to be hot usually hold up (the Ball/Judd/Hodge and the Deledio/Roughead/Griffen/Buddy editions come to mind).

[Greystache]

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I don't agree with that. Often the current year's draft is reputed to be very strong and the following year's softer. The predictions are not always right, it's a speculative game after all, but the ones said to be hot usually hold up (the Ball/Judd/Hodge and the Deledio/Roughead/Griffen/Buddy editions come to mind).

They were 14 and 11 years ago respectively. Which of the last 5 drafts have been predicted to be strong? It's the new trend, talk down the current one and talk up the next one. It's either weak, shallow, or even with minimal elite talent, but next year's will be stronger. It never proves to be correct.

[Greystache]

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I don't agree with that. Often the current year's draft is reputed to be very strong and the following year's softer. The predictions are not always right, it's a speculative game after all, but the ones said to be hot usually hold up (the Ball/Judd/Hodge and the Deledio/Roughead/Griffen/Buddy editions come to mind).

Which of the last 5 drafts have been predicted to be strong? It's the new trend, talk down the current one and talk up the next one. It's either weak, shallow, or even with minimal elite talent, but next year's will be stronger. It never proves to be correct.

[KT31]

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Which of the last 5 drafts have been predicted to be strong? It's the new trend, talk down the current one and talk up the next one. It's either weak, shallow, or even with minimal elite talent, but next year's will be stronger. It never proves to be correct.

2012 was predicted to be a good pool of kids.

[Mofra]

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2012 was predicted to be a good pool of kids.

I remember that too - talked up pre-draft.
Looking at the top 10 it seems to have lived up tot he hype, especially considering Toumpas has been held back by injury.

[LostDoggy]

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Which of the last 5 drafts have been predicted to be strong? It's the new trend, talk down the current one and talk up the next one. It's either weak, shallow, or even with minimal elite talent, but next year's will be stronger. It never proves to be correct.

I don't think the talk is as simple as this year bad, next year good. Most of the experts rate this years top 30 or 40 as strong on talls, average on mids. The knock is that outside of the top 30, this year's talent pool is considered to drop away quicker than usual. Next year's crop is considered to be thinner for quality talls but the overall talent pool will be deeper.

I bought up the older drafts because you can only really assess a drafts quality after 5 years minmum.

Probably the most hyped draft of recent years was the GWS draft 3yrs ago. Hard to assess as so many top picks are at GWS and yet to hit potential. We got Stringer and Macrae early and Hunter f/s, whilst Wines, Vlastuin, Daniher, Viney have made promising starts to career.

It's never black and white but overall I'm pretty impressed with how accurate the talent spotters predictions tend to be.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Hrovat and 11 for pick 5. That's actually not a bad deal for all involved. Specially if we've got another Bontempelli lined up at that pick.

Hrovat I think will be a good AFL player and I'd be happy to keep him too, but if the offer is good........he may well be covered by other similar types on the list. Caleb Daniel for one.

[Remi Moses]

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You could see Stkilda using that 11 for Carlisle, and we get 5.
Interesting that its perceived the top 2 are standouts and the rest are a bit of a lottery .

[Mofra]

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You could see Stkilda using that 11 for Carlisle, and we get 5.
Interesting that its perceived the top 2 are standouts and the rest are a bit of a lottery .

Sounds like 2013 - Boyd a monty for pick 1, Kelly & Billings odds-on for picks 2 & 3, nobody knew what we'd do with pick 4.

I think we chose wisely

[Grantysghost]

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Sucking being touted as a potential target. Obvious links to Beveridge I think at 27 he would be a great acquisition.

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[Bulldog Joe]

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Sucking being touted as a potential target. Obvious links to Beveridge I think at 27 he would be a great acquisition.

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Not to keen on Suckling.
What does he really offer ?

Better to give opportunities to players like Lukas Webb.

[Axe Man]

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Sucking being touted as a potential target. Obvious links to Beveridge I think at 27 he would be a great acquisition.

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Interesting. For 2016 he seems surplus to requirements as a running backman, but from 2017 onwards as a Boyd and Murphy replacement he holds some appeal.

I wonder if we see him taking Grant's spot on the wing next year?