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  • merantau
    Coaching Staff
    • May 2015
    • 4105

    #31
    Re: Historical bulldog articles

    Butch Litchfield played one game for our twos and kicked three goals. It was at the Lake Oval. He had the ability but .... who knows why he didn't .... only he I suppose.
    The Litchfields were a large Braybrook family - good cricketers and footballers.
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    • Twodogs
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      • Nov 2006
      • 27682

      #32
      Re: Historical bulldog articles

      Could it be something as simple as catastrophizing? We ascribe all these reasons as to why somebody doesn't do something but fear of failure can be a strong (non) motivation.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • merantau
        Coaching Staff
        • May 2015
        • 4105

        #33
        Re: Historical bulldog articles

        What the academics like to call "socio-cultural" factors might have played a part.
        In the 50s and 60s, where I grew up, there was a family of Shepperbottoms. They lived in the newly built Housing Commission estate on the north side of South Road in Braybrook. That estate came about as a result of Melbourne hosting the '56 Olympics.
        During the war a U.S. army camp was established at Royal Park near the Zoo. It was mainly comprised of Nissen huts. When the war ended, and it was empty, the Government decided to move all the people out of Dudley Flats to this camp. It was called Camp Pell.
        Dudley Flats was a shanty town that had its origins with victims of the Depression who were evicted by landlords and had no where else to go. They used whatever they could find to build humpies on the wasteland between the Coode Canal (which ran beside Dynon Rd) and Footscray Rd. There was a great deal of deprivation and dysfunction which was replicated when the people were moved to Camp Pell.
        The place was an eyesore. Melbourne had to be cleaned up prior to the Olympics so the place was razed and the population moved out to HC estates in Braybrook and Broadmeadows.
        Carl Williams' family came out of Camp Pell. It was a hard place to grow up and it's often times very difficult to escape you background.
        Things are not always as simple as they seem.
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        • Nuggety Back Pocket
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 2064

          #34
          Re: Historical bulldog articles

          Originally posted by merantau
          Ted Whitten, Wally Donald, Doug Hawkins, George Bissett, Gary Merrington, Denis Collins, Robert Gronewagon, Ivan March, Lyle Anderson, Phil O'Keefe, Bob Spargo, Robert? Fox, John Cuzzupe, Ray Walker, Brian Wilson, Graham "Gubby" Allan, ......
          Bob Spargo and "Gubby Allan" didn't play at Braybrook.

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          • merantau
            Coaching Staff
            • May 2015
            • 4105

            #35
            Re: Historical bulldog articles

            Re Bob Spargo: I was surprised to read in Jim Main's "AFL Footballers" that he played for Braybrook. The book is wrong then. Gubby Allan played for Sunshine so I'm wrong there too.
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            • Bulldog4life
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              • Oct 2007
              • 9607

              #36
              Re: Historical bulldog articles

              Originally posted by merantau
              Re Bob Spargo: I was surprised to read in Jim Main's "AFL Footballers" that he played for Braybrook. The book is wrong then. Gubby Allan played for Sunshine so I'm wrong there too.
              Wiki says it is Braybrook too although as a kid I thought he was from Albury.

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              • Nuggety Back Pocket
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 2064

                #37
                Re: Historical bulldog articles

                Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                Wiki says it is Braybrook too although as a kid I thought he was from Albury.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Spargo
                The Spargo family grew up in Footscray where Bob Spargo Snr. Was a fireman. Bob was one of many that came through the Footscray 6ths under the coaching of Norm Gardner, many of whom went on to play in our 1961 Grand Final side. These included Ware Jillard Evans, Graeme and Barry Ion, Cam McDonald Bob Ware and Merv Hobbs. Bob Spargo eventually coached Albury and now resides on the Gold Coast.

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                • merantau
                  Coaching Staff
                  • May 2015
                  • 4105

                  #38
                  Re: Historical bulldog articles

                  Bob Spargo was a brilliant footballer and like his dad, Bob senior, a well-performed pro-runner. I believe he made a Stawell Gift final.
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                  • Nuggety Back Pocket
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                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2064

                    #39
                    Re: Historical bulldog articles

                    Originally posted by merantau
                    Bob Spargo was a brilliant footballer and like his dad, Bob senior, a well-performed pro-runner. I believe he made a Stawell Gift final.
                    Ricky Spargo the younger brother of Bob also made the Stawell Gift final. A terrific achievement to have 3 family members reach the famous final.

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                    • Bulldog4life
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                      • Oct 2007
                      • 9607

                      #40
                      Re: Historical bulldog articles

                      Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                      Ricky Spargo the younger brother of Bob also made the Stawell Gift final. A terrific achievement to have 3 family members reach the famous final.
                      I think Ricky played 60 odd games with us too. I remember him as a speedy winger/rover type.

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27682

                        #41
                        Re: Historical bulldog articles

                        Not a bad CV for Bob. Stawell gift Finalist, Grand Final player.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Twodogs
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                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27682

                          #42
                          Re: Historical bulldog articles

                          Footscray Grand Final player at that. there aren't many of those.

                          There have been more Presidents of the USA.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27682

                            #43
                            Re: Historical bulldog articles

                            Footscray, Identity and Football History



                            Interesting essay but I'm not quite sure what his point is.
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • BornInDroopSt'54
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 5340

                              #44
                              Re: Historical bulldog articles

                              Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                              Wiki says it is Braybrook too although as a kid I thought he was from Albury.

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Spargo
                              Bob and Ricky Spargo lived in Droop St Footscray at the fire brigade flats in the 1950's and early 60's. My brother and I used to kick the footy with Ricky and Bob would have a chat. Bob would have been 20 yo in 1959, when I was 5yo. so I don't know if the flats was where they moved to support his footy but the whole family was there and his dad also played for the Dogs.
                              Footscray Football Republic.

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                              • BornInDroopSt'54
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 5340

                                #45
                                Re: Historical bulldog articles

                                Originally posted by Twodogs
                                Not a bad CV for Bob. Stawell gift Finalist, Grand Final player.
                                And he won the Simpson medal for best player versus the big V after he moved to WA.
                                Footscray Football Republic.

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