Hrovat & Honeychurch

[bulldogtragic]

Looking at the game yesterday, I'd say Dunkley, Dahl, Daniel, Maclean plus Dickson (Crameri next year) are great for the small forward with Hunter and others capable of rotating through small & medium forward. All these are long term players.

I wonder if Hrovat & Honeychurch are worth persisting as depth for forward and have them gunning for these spots, or is there a case to have one or both playing another role? If they can't get into the best 22 they become trade targets. A small lock down defender to play on Betts there's would be nice if it fits into the gameplan.

It's not baby and bath water stuff, but positional moves ala Bob, Picken, Boyd, Grant, Roughy, Wood and others has worked.

[Bornadog]

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Looking at the game yesterday, I'd say Dunkley, Dahl, Daniel, Maclean plus Dickson (Crameri next year) are great for the small forward with Hunter and others capable of rotating through small & medium forward. All these are long term players.

I wonder if Hrovat & Honeychurch are worth persisting as depth for forward and have them gunning for these spots, or is there a case to have one or both playing another role? If they can't get into the best 22 they become trade targets. A small lock down defender to play on Betts there's would be nice if it fits into the gameplan.

It's not baby and bath water stuff, but positional moves ala Bob, Picken, Boyd, Grant, Roughy, Wood and others has worked.

Eventually, Bob, Boyd and Picken will be gone opening up more spots. Then there are the inevitable injuries, so you need backups.

[bulldogtragic]

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Eventually, Bob, Boyd and Picken will be gone opening up more spots. Then there are the inevitable injuries, so you need backups.

I agree, those guys are middle and defence. Which is a reason for the question, should H&H development be on forward craft or send them the defence now for when retirements come?

[Bornadog]

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I agree, those guys are middle and defence. Which is a reason for the question, should H&H development be on forward craft or send them the defence now for when retirements come?

Definitely needs to be considered.

[Go_Dogs]

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I think both Hrovat and Honeychurch are worth persisting with for now.

Hrovat was pretty good over the course of the pre-season and will play quite a bit of senior football this year. Honeychurch is a different style of player, but I think he can also play a role in our side.

Both need to continue to improve their decision making and disposal, because that's what lets them both down from time to time. I also wonder if Honeychurch has the motor to play through the midfield, which is a requirement for any of our smaller blokes who play forward - he certainly has the hardness to add a bit around the ball.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Hrovat & Honeychurch

I think both Hrovat and Honeychurch are worth persisting with for now.

Hrovat was pretty good over the course of the pre-season and will play quite a bit of senior football this year. Honeychurch is a different style of player, but I think he can also play a role in our side.

Both need to continue to improve their decision making and disposal, because that's what lets them both down from time to time. I also wonder if Honeychurch has the motor to play through the midfield, which is a requirement for any of our smaller blokes who play forward - he certainly has the hardness to add a bit around the ball.

They're on the list, so we are persisting. Is it forward, mid or in defence? Bevo has long record of getting wins by changing players roles, is one or both of these needing a change with a glut of small forwards?

[Dry Rot]

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FWIW Honeychurch is a very good defensive forward.

[westdog54]

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They'll both need to be more versatile if they're going to command a spot on the list in the coming years.

We all know that their best is absolutely AFL standard, so anything we can do for them that makes them more valuable players on the list should be considered, and we're in the fortunate position of being able to use Footscray as a vehicle for that.

It may even increase any trade value in the event another club makes either of them a generous offer.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

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They'll both need to be more versatile if they're going to command a spot on the list in the coming years.

We all know that their best is absolutely AFL standard, so anything we can do for them that makes them more valuable players on the list should be considered, and we're in the fortunate position of being able to use Footscray as a vehicle for that.

It may even increase any trade value in the event another club makes either of them a generous offer.

Daniel and McLean both have more upside than H and H and the same might be true for Dale and Webb. You would have to think that both may struggle to become regular members of the side.

[westdog54]

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Daniel and McLean both have more upside than H and H and the same might be true for Dale and Webb. You would have to think that both may struggle to become regular members of the side.

In their current state, yes. Hence the need for the club to look at making them more versatile as footballers.

[GVGjr]

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We've been shut out of the first round for a couple of years and I think there could be a chances players like Hrovat, Honeychurch and one or two others could potentially be used to move us up the draft order in either the 1st or 2nd rounds.

[bulldogtragic]

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We've been shut out of the first round for a couple of years and I think there could be a chances players like Hrovat, Honeychurch and one or two others could potentially be used to move us up the draft order in either the 1st or 2nd rounds.

You've got my curiosity G. Who are the other one or two?

[GVGjr]

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You've got my curiosity G. Who are the other one or two?

I don't want to derail the thread from the 2 you started with but maybe some of the other players just outside of yesterdays 22 might attract some interest.

[bulldogtragic]

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I don't want to derail the thread from the 2 you started with but maybe some of the other players just outside of yesterdays 22 might attract some interest.

Feel free to post in the rolling/moving list management thread. I'm keen to hear your views.

[GVGjr]

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Feel free to post in the rolling/moving list management thread. I'm keen to hear your views.

I'd start with Hrovat and HC and I wouldn't mind betting a club or two might find big Jack interesting especially if he can't find a home in a Crameri less forward line with us. Hamilton might have 2 SA clubs interested as well. Webb and Dale might have some suitors.

We will start to get raided and while J-Mac has done a sensational job with his list management a small number of our boys will realise opportunities might be better elsewhere. Opposition clubs will start to get into the managers ears but that is the cycle of footy much like us offering Hamling a better deal than the Cats could.

Having depth in a playing list is great but I think we need to keep looking for star players. Moving up the draft rather than down could get us a better chance of achieving that.