Match Committee - Round 3 2016 vs Hawthorn

[comrade]

Re: Match Committee - Round 3 2016 vs Hawthorn

Ditto.

Yep, I'd be happy with that.

[Rocco Jones]

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I again sense a bit of trying too hard with selections. I see us being less choppy/development focused than last year and really having a crack at it.

Suckling definitely struggles with elements of our structure/footy in general but his strength i.e. just kicking is wow. Sub or not he kept on getting in Hawks 22 and I would easily keep him in.

Dale kicked 7 in a VFL practice match. Cool. I think he will be a quality player but don't see him physically being ready. Much harder side to get into than last year.

Maybe Dunkley out due to backing up but I would want someone physically ready to apply defensive pressure. Jong?

[Bulldog4life]

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Horvat's early practice match form surely will have him in line too.

[1eyedog]

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I'd change Dunkley for Webb or Adcock.

I'm not convinced with Suckling but he will play against his old side.

Me either. It wasn't the stuff he didn't do right last night, he just looks slow and awkward out there at the moment compared to the players around him. I like that he can find space but he just seems out of sync with the rest of the team. How he fits into our structure is a work in progress and if Bevo really wants him in there he'll just need to play more game time to learn what we need him to do.

To me he's slowish, not great in traffic and is liable to coughing it up under pressure and I realise he is not the sort of player who should be at the coal face but he needs more than to land his left boot because Webb can do that too, and I'm keen to get Webb into the team. Agreed though that he will play against his old team.

Ins: Jong
Outs: Dunkley

The game next week will be tough and I see Jong being more battle ready to provide more grunt inside than Dale and can also generate more run.

[Mantis]

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Horvat's early practice match form surely will have him in line too.

Didn't play yesterday so perhaps he is injured??

As with a few others I don't think Dale is physically ready, especially against a mature team like the Hawks.. Sure he could get on the end of a few and finish them off with his elite finishing, but he just doesn't win enough one on one contests.. Yet.

Dunkley has taken some really strong grabs in the past few weeks and Dale doesn't have this ability.

Really impressed with Jong yesterday and I think he comes in.

Others in line would be Webb and Hamling.

[GVGjr]

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Out: Dunkley and M Boyd

In: Dale and Webb

Boyd to be managed and have a rest, whilst Dunkley may benefit from getting more opportunity with the ball in hand at VFL level for a few weeks after a good taste.

The two in's are the players I think are closest to selection at the moment and a game against Hawthorn is a great experience for them.

Is it too early in the season to be managing the veteran players? To me if M.Boyd is dropped they might dress it up as 'managing the veterans' but in reality it could be more around form.

[Cyberdoggie]

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I thought Easton Wood didn't look like he was moving that freely, possibly from last weeks bump and aerial work. I think he'll still play but wouldn't surprise me if he's carrying a niggle.

[1eyedog]

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Is it too early in the season to be managing the veteran players? To me if M.Boyd is dropped they might dress it up as 'managing the veterans' but in reality it could be more around form.

Is M. Boyd out of form?

[Hotdog60]

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M Boyd must be playing a role that doesn't make you notice him as his stats are very good.
25 disposals 14 kicks 11 handballs 9 Marks at 84% effective disposal.

Murphy and JJ were only 1% better with the ball. Maybe they are not good examples because of metre gained.

[Bulldog4life]

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Is M. Boyd out of form?

I thought he played quite well.

[1eyedog]

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M Boyd must be playing a role that doesn't make you notice him as his stats are very good.
25 disposals 14 kicks 11 handballs 9 Marks at 84% effective disposal.

Thought so. He made a few mistakes last week but his efficiency was through the roof against Freo as well. Maybe the players around him are just super-good making him look ordinary.

[Go_Dogs]

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Is it too early in the season to be managing the veteran players? To me if M.Boyd is dropped they might dress it up as 'managing the veterans' but in reality it could be more around form.

Sure, and I think you may be right. On current form, Boyd would be our least-performed running defender (perhaps due to the great form of others, rather than him really battling) and given this part of the field is fast becoming our greatest strength, the time is probably right to blood someone who can be a 10 year player.

Boyd will be important throughout the second half of the season, as our kids tire, we have injuries and a seasoned body with experience will be required to help get us through those tough winter months. So whilst current form plays a part, managing him to be available when the going gets a bit tougher is a strong consideration too. A soft tissue injury now could potentially lay him out for some time and whilst it may seem quite early to rest him, the coach appears set to manage our players over the opening 6-8 weeks.

[ledge]

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Didn't play yesterday so perhaps he is injured??

As with a few others I don't think Dale is physically ready, especially against a mature team like the Hawks.. Sure he could get on the end of a few and finish them off with his elite finishing, but he just doesn't win enough one on one contests.. Yet.

Dunkley has taken some really strong grabs in the past few weeks and Dale doesn't have this ability.

Really impressed with Jong yesterday and I think he comes in.

Others in line would be Webb and Hamling.

Well I must say I don't agree with your take on Dale he killed it yesterday and his marking is a very strong point, he takes it at the highest point. Him and Hamling seem to have the ball on a string at the moment.
Hrovat is interesting, he was emergency last week to a no show at all yesterday, I asked Ben Graham where is Hrovat and the response I got was "I know exactly where he is " then just have a sort of smile,wouldn't elaborate and walked off, but was quite chatty before I asked. not sure what it meant , but if he was injured why wouldn't he just say he is injured , get the feeling something is amiss with him. But that's just my feeling.

[soupman]

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IMO Matty Boyd has had a poor start to the season.

Although his stats are healthy it's the little things that have started creeping into his game that worry me. Both weeks he has fumbled the ball when he is normally so clean or stuffed the handpass.

[F'scary]

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Stringer seemed to be limping at times last night. Wood was a bit quieter, there's been suggestions here he looked as if he is carrying a niggle. Dunkley looked completely shot in the last quarter. There are probably a couple of others. I think we will be forced to make a couple of changes for the Hawks.