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  • Hard Ball Get

    #16
    Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

    Out and out champion of the game.
    There would be only a small group of players (Carey, Mattews, Ablett etc) that I think are clearly above him as a footballer. Tough and coragous, strong, versitile, longevity. Grant pretty much has it all.

    If Carey et al. is a 5 then I would have Grant at about 4.7 - 4.8

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    • alwaysadog
      Senior Player
      • Dec 2006
      • 1435

      #17
      Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

      Champions aren't just made on their football, though tell me what Chris hasn't done for our cause at the highest level. Champions are also champion people. Sutton was, Whitten was, Hawkins was and Grant is. Though in a totally different way to the others, and they're a divergent lot already.

      Chris never sort the limelight off the field. If that's part of being a champion then I'll be glad not to call him one. If genuinely decent human beings who perform at the highest level over more than a decade and a half can't be called champions then who can?

      Oh, silly me, you obviously have to play for a "big" club to be a champion, no one else has ever had the right to have one.
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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #18
        Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

        He is a champion.

        What gives me the shits, is how The Footy Show & certain radio stations throw around the name. Especially when they introduce people onto a panel, take Nathan Brown for example.

        Every time he is introduced by James Brayshaw, it's "the champion from the Richmond Football club" what has he done to deserve that?

        Chris Grant is far & wide a champion in my eyes, even if other supporters and media people don't see it.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #19
          Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
          I can't believe someone thought there was a need to raise the question.

          Billy, I suspect you are just trying to get a bit of traffic happening on this website (which is good), but if you were serious about asking it you should have spent the last 17 years watching him rather than reading the Herald-Sun.
          Agree. He is a champion Full Stop!
          End of Discussion.

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          • azabob
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 15207

            #20
            Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

            Originally posted by JH40
            He is a champion.

            What gives me the shits, is how The Footy Show & certain radio stations throw around the name. Especially when they introduce people onto a panel, take Nathan Brown for example.

            Every time he is introduced by James Brayshaw, it's "the champion from the Richmond Football club" what has he done to deserve that?

            Chris Grant is far & wide a champion in my eyes, even if other supporters and media people don't see it.
            What I dont understand is why people get upset at what certain radio stations, or footy shows or papers say. Of course brayshaw is going to say Brown is a champion. Brayshaw / Lyon / Newman need to pump up the tyres of their overated, over hyped show. That is why they also find it necessary to degrade women and the contribution they make to society and football.
            More of an In Bruges guy?

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            • The Coon Dog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7578

              #21
              Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

              In the eyes of Bulldogs supporters he is a champion, both on & off the field.
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              • Before I Die
                Senior Player
                • Jul 2008
                • 1031

                #22
                Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

                Originally posted by Billy Blogger
                I
                When looking back on the career of Chris Grant I would be interested to know if our loyal Bulldog supporters here really class him as a champion footballer?
                I can't believe you are asking the question. If you asked was he a superstar, or was he one of the all time greatest players, there may justification for a discussion, though I would say yes to both. But is he a champion? Absolutely, and anyone who disagrees is either ignorant, stupid or both, or has a personal defintion of champion which is at odds with anything you would find in a dictionary. I would love to know what criteria would be used to exclude him, other than, not enough TV exposure, didn't hang with the right social crowd, didn't play for a high profile team.
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                • Scraggers
                  Premiership Moderator
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 3550

                  #23
                  Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

                  I agree the tag of champion is thrown around to easily to those who haven't earned it ...

                  When it comes to Chris Grant, it should be shouted from the roof tops ... Champion man, Champion footballer

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #24
                    Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

                    Can't think of anyone more deserving of the tag.

                    Single-handedly carried the team on many an occassion, and an exquisite ambassador for the game. Severely underrated by the larger football fraternity -- always very disappointed when he doesn't make the 'top 50 of all time' lists when guys like Jakovich or Cousins or Buckley (!) do simply because of a higher media profile. If we had made the '97 GF he would have gotten the recognition he so richly deserved on the widest stage possible.

                    I await the day (which will surely come) when Chris is retrospectively awarded the Brownlow. Him being the only top vote-getter to miss out is an anomaly that grows more anomalous every passing year, and Ian Collins's despicability becomes clearer and clearer (finally becoming obvious to the AFL hierarchy and wider public), it is surely only a matter of time before someone decent comes along to over-rule the results of a weasel's personal vendetta. Would be a very special moment when it happens.

                    --

                    ps. WOOF may be able to keep the pressure up on headquarters. If Nick Maxwell can get off a 4-week suspension by bringing in a QC, Chris Grant should be proudly displaying his Brownlow in his pool room.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #25
                      Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      If he'd had the brownlow(s) and the premiership he so richly deserved we wouldnt be having this conversation.
                      Poetry.

                      Close thread.

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                      • Axe Man
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 11020

                        #26
                        Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

                        Originally posted by Lantern
                        I await the day (which will surely come) when Chris is retrospectively awarded the Brownlow. Him being the only top vote-getter to miss out is an anomaly that grows more anomalous every passing year, and Ian Collins's despicability becomes clearer and clearer (finally becoming obvious to the AFL hierarchy and wider public), it is surely only a matter of time before someone decent comes along to over-rule the results of a weasel's personal vendetta. Would be a very special moment when it happens.

                        --

                        ps. WOOF may be able to keep the pressure up on headquarters. If Nick Maxwell can get off a 4-week suspension by bringing in a QC, Chris Grant should be proudly displaying his Brownlow in his pool room.

                        Corey McKernan says hi

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                        • Scraggers
                          Premiership Moderator
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 3550

                          #27
                          Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

                          Originally posted by Axe Man
                          Corey McKernan says hi
                          You beat me to it !!

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                          • mighty_west
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3414

                            #28
                            Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

                            Champion of the game
                            Legend of the club

                            The BEST player running around in the red white & blue i have seen [since the late 70's].

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                            • Sockeye Salmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6365

                              #29
                              Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

                              Originally posted by Axe Man
                              Corey McKernan says hi
                              You know the stupid thing about this?

                              Because Grant polled more votes than Harvey, neither he nor McKernan can ever be given a retrospective medal.

                              To do so would be to take Harvey's back, and they will never do that.

                              Had Grant tied with Harvey, rather than beaten him, it would have been easy for the AFL just to change the rule, give Grant and McKernan their medals - like they did with Alan Hopkins, Noel Teasdale, Graham Arther et al - and that would be the end of it.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #30
                                Re: Grant - The Champion Tag?

                                Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                                You know the stupid thing about this?

                                Because Grant polled more votes than Harvey, neither he nor McKernan can ever be given a retrospective medal.

                                To do so would be to take Harvey's back, and they will never do that.

                                Had Grant tied with Harvey, rather than beaten him, it would have been easy for the AFL just to change the rule, give Grant and McKernan their medals - like they did with Alan Hopkins, Noel Teasdale, Graham Arther et al - and that would be the end of it.
                                Graham Arthur?

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