Heavy scoring myth

[Happy Days]

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But in doing so he is out for 3-4 months.. In hindsight would it have been a better option to not kick over the oppositions defence?

The day I pot a guy for kicking a 60m sausage is the day I stop liking football.

[stefoid]

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We are currently sitting on 17th in rebound 50s

yep, and in good company for that stat, indicating the teams who keep the ball in their own forward halves - with the exception of brisbane who I presume have low R50s because every time the opposition gets it in there they have a shot on goal

[Ghost Dog]

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But in doing so he is out for 3-4 months.. In hindsight would it have been a better option to not kick over the oppositions defence?

Before I reply to this, can I clarify, did JJ have a prior serious injury with his hamstring?

Interesting to note. After round two After two rounds of football, we had " an astronomical percentage of 264.9 – the highest Round 2 percentage in at least this century."

I'd like to see us score a few more goals with short kicks into the 50 to Boyd. Hope he builds his confidence because come big game time, we might need that clutch goal.

[Ghost Dog]

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Have noted with interest the media obsession with heavy scoring in the first 4 rounds of 2016. Our game style last year seems to mirror what the rest of the competition is doing in 2016, but we appear to have changed tack completely with our intense effort on defence in 2016 - we are conceding almost half the scores that the ladder leader has done so far, which is a staggering stat.

Are we ahead of the curve with our emphasis on clamping down on the opposition in 2016, or are we doing it by necessity because we are so down in forward personnel and goal scoring power so far this year? The game against Norf in 2 weeks will answer plenty I suspect.

We have better endurance athletes in our team than other clubs. But I'm not sure if it's sustainable.

[Bornadog]

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Before I reply to this, can I clarify, did JJ have a prior serious injury with his hamstring?

Interesting to note. After round two After two rounds of football, we had " an astronomical percentage of 264.9 – the highest Round 2 percentage in at least this century."

I'd like to see us score a few more goals with short kicks into the 50 to Boyd. Hope he builds his confidence because come big game time, we might need that clutch goal.

Not sure about turnovers but we are ranked the lowest for critical errors.

[Ozza]

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Not sure about turnovers but we are ranked the lowest for critical errors.

Lowest in aggregate or by % of possessions? I would have thought we've had more possessions that anyone this year, so if it is lowest by aggregate, then that is both surprising, and very impressive.

[Bornadog]

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Lowest in aggregate or by % of possessions? I would have thought we've had more possessions that anyone this year, so if it is lowest by aggregate, then that is both surprising, and very impressive.

aggregate and %., and yes we are the highest for disposals

[Raw Toast]

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I dont think its new, we are just continuing to get better at the same plan bev had all along. Last season was very patchy in the regard.

Someone on BF noted that the ability to play on quickly and run and kick the ball out of the oppositions zone also helps _our_ defence because we dont find ourselves trapped in the oppositions forward half so much. Very difficult for the opposition to kick a goal when the ball is in our forward half.

Ross Lyon noted this in his press conference after we played freo that despite our 'famous' rebound we didnt actually score on the rebound very much against freo, but we scored a lot from getting the ball inside 50 and keeping it there and eventually scoring.

I was initially a bit 'meh' on recruiting suckling but if he is now playing back to cover JJ and murph, he becomes very important to this basic plan to get the ball into our F50 first and worry about scoring later, because he obviously has the ability to kick over or through the opposition zone despite not being a run and carry player.

Probably the difference between the hawks and us right now is their well oiled-machine can score on the rebound more than our helter-skelter, finding new ways to stuff up, F50 entries. But what we lack in composure in our forward half we make up with youthful defensive energy and some dynamite inside mids.

Agree with this. Beveridge has been very clear in his press conferences this year (and was also last year), that we're trying to both increase our average score per game, and decrease the opposition - so far this season he's tended to be happier with our defensive play, rather than our attacking play.

In the first few weeks we were playing the most consistent version of Pagan's paddock that I've seen since Carey was kicked out of North - it's a testament to Stringer's ability and work-rate, and not a surprise perhaps, that he hasn't quite mastered the ability to consistently smash opposition defenders with it at his age. (As others have also noted, a flow on effect from Crameri and Dickson out, is that opposition defenders can focus on stopping Stringer...)

[Ghost Dog]

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Agree with this. Beveridge has been very clear in his press conferences this year (and was also last year), that we're trying to both increase our average score per game, and decrease the opposition - so far this season he's tended to be happier with our defensive play, rather than our attacking play.

In the first few weeks we were playing the most consistent version of Pagan's paddock that I've seen since Carey was kicked out of North - it's a testament to Stringer's ability and work-rate, and not a surprise perhaps, that he hasn't quite mastered the ability to consistently smash opposition defenders with it at his age. (As others have also noted, a flow on effect from Crameri and Dickson out, is that opposition defenders can focus on stopping Stringer...)

Would be interesting to see some data on distance travelled for our boys per game compared to last year. Maybe this can account for some of the inaccuracy.