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  • comrade
    Hall of Fame
    • Jun 2008
    • 18027

    Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

    Wouldn't mind trying to upgrade our 3rd round to somewhere in the 20s and use that pick to secure a player like McStay. Reckon that's about his worth, think he's off contract too. Fits our team ethos of versatility nicely.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66688

      Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

      ANALYSIS: Who's left in the key forward trade market

      THURSDAY was a bad day for teams in the market for an experienced spearhead with this year's two most enticing out-of-contract targets, Josh Jenkins and Jack Watts, re-signing with their clubs on long-term deals.


      As keen as the rival interest in Jenkins and Watts was – and the Brisbane Lions reportedly offered Jenkins up to $800,000 a season – it had seemed for some time a matter of when, not if, they recommitted to Adelaide and Melbourne respectively.


      So rival suitors would not have been surprised by Thursday's announcements Jenkins had recommitted to the Crows for five years and Watts to the Demons for three.


      The question is who do these teams turn their attention to now?


      With Watts officially out of this year's free agency pool, Richmond forward/ruckman Tyrone Vickery is the only genuine spearhead left – one-club veterans Matthew Pavlich and Drew Petrie aside.


      • Who's on the move? Nick Bowen tracks 2016's free agents


      Vickery's contract discussions with Richmond have moved slowly this year, but Tigers coach Damien Hardwick said on Thursday the tall was an "integral part" of the club's on-field future.


      That could change, of course, if a rival club puts a free agency offer to Vickery lucrative enough to earn Richmond a tempting compensation pick.


      This year's out-of-contract market has not only been diminished by Jenkins' re-signing, with swingman Sam Day recommitting to Gold Coast last week.


      Which leaves Mason Wood, Ben Griffiths, Shane Kersten and Levi Casboult as 2016's most appealing targets.


      Wood has attracted keen interest from several clubs believed to include Essendon, Fremantle and the Brisbane Lions, however his management company, Strategic, said last week the 22-year-old's preference is to stay at Arden Street.


      Similarly, Casboult is understood to be keen to re-sign with the Blues, and his manager, Anthony McConville, said recently he expected to ramp up talks with Carlton soon.


      However, Griffiths has yet to start meaningful talks with Richmond and Kersten's discussions with Geelong are moving slowly.


      West Australian Kersten, who has been linked with Fremantle, is one of three key forwards out of contract at Geelong, along with Mitch Clark and Nathan Vardy.


      Vardy, 25, has been plagued by injury in his seven seasons with the Cats but has hardly missed a game this year.


      However, all bar one of those games have been in the VFL, so lack of opportunity could convince him to pursue interest from clubs believed to include the Western Bulldogs and Essendon.


      Another out-of-contract forward who could chase greater senior opportunities elsewhere is Majak Daw, who sits behind Petrie, Jarrad Waite, Ben Brown and Wood in North Melbourne's tall forward pecking order.


      Giants youngster James Stewart has not played a senior game since round one – although he was named in Greater Western Sydney's squad of 25 for Sunday's clash against Port Adelaide – and is also likely to attract rival bids at trade time.


      Port Adelaide spearhead John Butcher is set to play his first senior game this year this week but, at 25, his career appears at the crossroads.


      And out-of-contract veterans Waite, Clark, Port's Jay Schulz and Melbourne's Chris Dawes seem likely to play on with their respective clubs or retire.


      However, as we've seen in past trade periods, teams won't limit their search to out-of-contract forwards.


      Giant Adam Tomlinson has been widely linked to a return home to Victoria, with Carlton seen as his most likely destination, while Collingwood veteran Travis Cloke and North's Aaron Black could also see brighter futures at new clubs.


      And could someone make a play for forgotten Sydney Swan Sam Reid?


      Like Cloke and Black, Reid is set to become a free agent at the end of 2017.
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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14945

        Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

        Originally posted by comrade
        Wouldn't mind trying to upgrade our 3rd round to somewhere in the 20s and use that pick to secure a player like McStay. Reckon that's about his worth, think he's off contract too. Fits our team ethos of versatility nicely.
        Contracted to 2017, although every week he's mentioned in these threads.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

          I love reading articles like that and realising most of them wouldn't get a game for us.

          I wouldn't mind Sam Reid, however he might be a bit injury prone now. We wouldn't consider him for anything inside the top 40 I'd imagie - cause of the injury risk he brings. I'm not sure if the Swans would be willing to let him go for that.

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27654

            Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

            Maybe Tomlinson?

            Mason Wood for sure.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • boydogs
              WOOF Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 5844

              Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

              Wonder what's happened to Aaron Black, he was looking good for a while there
              If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

              Formerly gogriff

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44622

                Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                Originally posted by boydogs
                Wonder what's happened to Aaron Black, he was looking good for a while there
                A number of North talls considered better options. Recruiting Waite didn't help his cause either.
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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  ANALYSIS: Who's left in the key forward trade market

                  THURSDAY was a bad day for teams in the market for an experienced spearhead with this year's two most enticing out-of-contract targets, Josh Jenkins and Jack Watts, re-signing with their clubs on long-term deals.


                  As keen as the rival interest in Jenkins and Watts was – and the Brisbane Lions reportedly offered Jenkins up to $800,000 a season – it had seemed for some time a matter of when, not if, they recommitted to Adelaide and Melbourne respectively.


                  So rival suitors would not have been surprised by Thursday's announcements Jenkins had recommitted to the Crows for five years and Watts to the Demons for three.


                  The question is who do these teams turn their attention to now?


                  With Watts officially out of this year's free agency pool, Richmond forward/ruckman Tyrone Vickery is the only genuine spearhead left – one-club veterans Matthew Pavlich and Drew Petrie aside.


                  • Who's on the move? Nick Bowen tracks 2016's free agents


                  Vickery's contract discussions with Richmond have moved slowly this year, but Tigers coach Damien Hardwick said on Thursday the tall was an "integral part" of the club's on-field future.


                  That could change, of course, if a rival club puts a free agency offer to Vickery lucrative enough to earn Richmond a tempting compensation pick.


                  This year's out-of-contract market has not only been diminished by Jenkins' re-signing, with swingman Sam Day recommitting to Gold Coast last week.


                  Which leaves Mason Wood, Ben Griffiths, Shane Kersten and Levi Casboult as 2016's most appealing targets.


                  Wood has attracted keen interest from several clubs believed to include Essendon, Fremantle and the Brisbane Lions, however his management company, Strategic, said last week the 22-year-old's preference is to stay at Arden Street.


                  Similarly, Casboult is understood to be keen to re-sign with the Blues, and his manager, Anthony McConville, said recently he expected to ramp up talks with Carlton soon.


                  However, Griffiths has yet to start meaningful talks with Richmond and Kersten's discussions with Geelong are moving slowly.


                  West Australian Kersten, who has been linked with Fremantle, is one of three key forwards out of contract at Geelong, along with Mitch Clark and Nathan Vardy.


                  Vardy, 25, has been plagued by injury in his seven seasons with the Cats but has hardly missed a game this year.


                  However, all bar one of those games have been in the VFL, so lack of opportunity could convince him to pursue interest from clubs believed to include the Western Bulldogs and Essendon.


                  Another out-of-contract forward who could chase greater senior opportunities elsewhere is Majak Daw, who sits behind Petrie, Jarrad Waite, Ben Brown and Wood in North Melbourne's tall forward pecking order.


                  Giants youngster James Stewart has not played a senior game since round one – although he was named in Greater Western Sydney's squad of 25 for Sunday's clash against Port Adelaide – and is also likely to attract rival bids at trade time.


                  Port Adelaide spearhead John Butcher is set to play his first senior game this year this week but, at 25, his career appears at the crossroads.


                  And out-of-contract veterans Waite, Clark, Port's Jay Schulz and Melbourne's Chris Dawes seem likely to play on with their respective clubs or retire.


                  However, as we've seen in past trade periods, teams won't limit their search to out-of-contract forwards.


                  Giant Adam Tomlinson has been widely linked to a return home to Victoria, with Carlton seen as his most likely destination, while Collingwood veteran Travis Cloke and North's Aaron Black could also see brighter futures at new clubs.


                  And could someone make a play for forgotten Sydney Swan Sam Reid?


                  Like Cloke and Black, Reid is set to become a free agent at the end of 2017.
                  We desperately need another KPF now for 2017. Stringer & Crammers re not a traditional KPF and after Boyd its Hamling. All options get looked at now I think.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66688

                    Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                    According to Barrett, Rory Lobb is thinking about going back to WA. I would love Rory Lobb for a ruck role.

                    story here
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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      According to Barrett, Rory Lobb is thinking about going back to WA. I would love Rory Lobb for a ruck role.

                      story here
                      Barrett also stated last night that Travis Cloke will leave Collingwood and 4 clubs are looking at him. The only club he mentioned was us.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66688

                        Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                        Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                        Barrett also stated last night that Travis Cloke will leave Collingwood and 4 clubs are looking at him. The only club he mentioned was us.
                        Would you take him as a short term solution till Redpath makes it back?
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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                          Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                          Barrett also stated last night that Travis Cloke will leave Collingwood and 4 clubs are looking at him. The only club he mentioned was us.
                          He's apparently on about $800,000 next year. Collingwood would have to pay the bulk of that if we wanted him.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • Bulldog4life
                            WOOF Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 9607

                            Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            He's apparently on about $800,000 next year. Collingwood would have to pay the bulk of that if we wanted him.
                            Yes like Greffin. Pay $600,000 Collingwood and we'll think about it.

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                            • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8961

                              Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                              I really hope we're not interested in Cloke.. He increasingly is looking like a guy who is coming to the end of his career in a hurry, and he has flaws that are already present in our list. We do not need another poor finisher in our forward line. I hope the days of us becoming a nursing home for flawed key forwards past their prime are in the past.

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                              • Twodogs
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27654

                                Re: Early Trade talk - Anyone we want that may be available?

                                Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                                I really hope we're not interested in Cloke.. He increasingly is looking like a guy who is coming to the end of his career in a hurry, and he has flaws that are already present in our list. We do not need another poor finisher in our forward line. I hope the days of us becoming a nursing home for flawed key forwards past their prime are in the past.

                                Same here. I thought about Cloke earlier in the season but his last few games have changed my mind. Even the one good game he has had (against GWS) was when he was wearing his sticky glove.
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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