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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Match Preview: Western Bulldogs Vs Greater Western Sydney Giants

    Match Preview: Western Bulldogs Vs Greater Western Sydney Giants
    Sunday, 3.20pm - Spotless Stadium
    Sunny & 24c


    Last Time We Met (30 May 2015)

    Bulldogs: 16.17 - 113
    GWS: 11.2 - 68

    Last Week:

    WBFC def MFC - 114-82
    GWS def GCS - 149-58

    What do the bookies say? (Crown Bet):

    GWS $1.35
    WBFC $ 3.25

    The quick analysis says we are going to be getting smashed, and smashed easily. I can't and don't agree.

    Summary:

    The 'Wild West Derby' has come around again, playing in Australia this year. An opportunity to unify all the stresses and frustrations in your life and aim them at this plastic franchise whose human life equivalent would be the spoilt rich kid that only has any friends because they've been given so many toys.

    I really, really don't like them. Let me count thy ways:

    1. Approaching Callan Ward against AFL rules during the year without consequence.
    2. After point 1, getting much less compo than MFC got for Scully.
    3. Adams sniping Cooney a few years back.
    4. Convincing our then captain to walk out of our club, the captaincy and his contract.
    5. Sooking when Tom Boyd was offered the same treatment.
    6. The 2014 last game of the round where we were beaten in the last minute. Which is also their only win against us. Or maybe that was a great thing that Jake dropped that mark, Brendan Macca would say no.

    This is the game of the round for mine, Third vs Fifth on the ladder with both teams equal on wins and only a few percent difference. Their attack measured by the ladder percentage is better than 140 points than us this year, but our defence is about 80 points better than theirs. So it's a case of whether the arm wrestle of their attack and our defence falls our way or theirs. One could argue that the big win last week against the GCS under 14 side is throwing out these stats.

    As much as I detest them, they have talent across every line and have some confidence. But the Bulldogs aren't devoid of ridiculous talent and confidence either. No doubt the winner will be credited with racking up a season defining win by knocking of another contender.


    Selection Table:

    Western Bulldogs:


    Ins: Keiran 'Dad' Collins (Debut: Dandenong Stingrays) & Stevens. Minson, Jong & Honeychurch onto extended bench.
    Outs: Matt Boyd (susp), Jack Redpath (susp)

    GWS:

    Ins: Greene, Tomlinson, Sam J Reid (who would've thought Sam would still be in the system!!!)
    Outs: Nil


    Key Match Ups

    The very versatile GWS forward line vs The very well zoned team defence of the Western bulldogs

    As per above, the GWS attack is about 140 points up on us this year. They have some big boys in Patton, Cameron, Lobb and mid sized forwards like Stevie J, Palmer and rotations of high quality players. It certainly provides a few headaches for us, as did Adelaide a few weeks ago with a similar forward line set up. But our team defence is almost as good as it gets when we do it right. Bringing in Collins helps cover their big bodies, Wood and Morris are the leaders down back and running defenders to set up forward entries.

    Western Bulldogs Vs Themselves

    Can the bulldogs continue to improve their forward 50 entries and goal kicking? Winning the footy isn't a huge problem with a damaging and hardened midfield and half backs adept at getting the turnovers. There was in improvement against Melbourne, but with Redpath spending the weekend in Melbourne is there another tall player who can provide a target and a foil for Jake Stringer to do what Jake Stringer does best. Embarrass the other 4 or 5 defenders on his own.

    Camhead (& Minson) vs Mumford & Son

    As called by me and a few others early this week, Campbell to go deep forward with Roughy rucking and dropping into defence if needed with Minson then rucking (possibly depending on the final bench). The weather looks to be sunny and 24c so without rain and lesser impact for rucks and the tall GWS forward line, this taller trio could be a great match up for us. Roughy offers cover down back, and Minson schooled Mumford last year and has been wound up impressing in the VFL, so unleash him on GWS I say. GWS have dominated the hit outs, so if we can nullify that whilst giving Bevo more flexibility then this is the week for this set up, all things continued.

    Midfield Vs Midfield

    I know I should be pulling out individual match ups, but there's so many guns on both sides. Ward stands out as someone we need to curtail and the 19 tackle job Libba did on Jones & Viney last week if repeated could be a big decided. Nullify Mumford giving them first use, then when with first use pummel them into the ground. Stevens coming back adds in another hard contested ball winner and Wallis, Dahl, Libba, Stevens, Macrae, Bonts and others are just a brilliant multi-dimensional midfield. We've got the hard edge to get it, if we can keep using it better and improving F50 entries then we are a fair way towards grinding out a hard fought win.


    2016 Stats

    A part from the same wins, and similar percentage, almost every single team stats are near identical for both teams. It's really uncanny, I don't recall seeing such a mirror between an opponent and us after 8 weeks for numbers to diverge, but haven't. Almost all areas of data from this year is within a single digit percentiles of each other. Down to frees for (they've been getting them too, but I must of missed those articles about that) and even the number of interchanges for each team. This data and stats indicates that this game could be an arm wrestle and not a shoot out. Their only real number in their favour is 'hit outs', while we have an average of an extra '40 disposals' a game made up wholly in '40 extra handpasses'. If we can nullify their ruck dominance and use our run, carry and handpassing then we might just have the advantage to beat them.

    Conclusion:

    Western Bulldogs: by 14 points
    Best on Ground:Tom Liberatore
    First Goal: Tory Dickson
    Crowd: 152 people (inclusive of ground staff)


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    Last edited by bulldogtragic; 19-05-2016, 07:44 PM.
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  • I'm Not Bitter Anymore!
    WOOF Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 1098

    #2
    Re: Match Preview: Western Bulldogs Vs Greater Western Sydney Giants

    They are detestable indeed

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 17921

      #3
      Re: Match Preview: Western Bulldogs Vs Greater Western Sydney Giants

      Nice job BT.

      Not sure if it's self denial, but despite our injuries, I can also make a case for us winning.

      It all comes down to our mids. If they can step it up once again and deny clean entries, it'll go a long way to beating them. Their backline is also undermanned with their 2 preferred key backs, Davis and Corr, out injured. Bloody Redpath could've had a field day, the big lug.

      Libba to Ward is a given, and I'm just as afraid of Stevie J as I am of Cameron. The wily old fox needs very close attention.

      Dogs by 8
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      • F'scary
        WOOF Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 4089

        #4
        Re: Match Preview: Western Bulldogs Vs Greater Western Sydney Giants

        My preferred Bench: Daniel, McLean, Stevens, Jong. Minson nominally named on bench and then switched to 1st ruck first bounce, Stevens starting on the Bench, Roughead to FP, Campbell to CHF, Stringer to FF and Wallis to HFF. Rest Minson on the bench when he needs a break.
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        • Testekill
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 2327

          #5
          Re: Match Preview: Western Bulldogs Vs Greater Western Sydney Giants

          I said it before but I would have preferred just not bringing in Minson to begin with, we're bringing in a plodding ruckman to compete with a plodding ruckman when Roughead & Campbell have beaten Goldstein, Jacobs & Gawn in successive weeks.

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          • I'm Not Bitter Anymore!
            WOOF Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 1098

            #6
            Re: Match Preview: Western Bulldogs Vs Greater Western Sydney Giants

            Gawn is on Marngrook now saying Campbell beat him by running him around

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            • boydogs
              WOOF Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 5842

              #7
              Re: Match Preview: Western Bulldogs Vs Greater Western Sydney Giants

              We're going to have to work too hard for our goals this week. We'll have Campbell or Roughead to kick to just trying to bring it to ground then be trying to scrap our goals from there. The drive off the half back line will be gone, we'll find it harder to get it out of defense and won't score as much on the rebound
              If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

              Formerly gogriff

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66116

                #8
                Re: Match Preview: Western Bulldogs Vs Greater Western Sydney Giants

                We will win this through the midfield. Although the general stats are similar, the two stats that we are way ahead of every team is the contested possession differential - we are 30 more on average than our opponents and disposals -100 ahead. We also have a stingy backline, although we will miss MBoyd. Adcock must take over that role and direct the young team. Midfield defence is where we are strong and we will limit the ball going into their tall forward line.
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                • Bulldog Joe
                  Premiership Moderator
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 5507

                  #9
                  Re: Match Preview: Western Bulldogs Vs Greater Western Sydney Giants

                  Campbell's ruck form has been terrific and he should be the main man. Despite Minson's lack of mobility I would slot him into the Redpath role with the view that he should at least bring the ball to ground and an instruction that he should be the target when he gets free.

                  Suspect they will pay Will no respect forward and if he can create a goal or 2 early he will have a positive influence on Stringers game. He also gives really good ruck cover if we need to send Roughy back.

                  The other alternative is Stevens to full forward and have him play the lead up role. He would certainly make the defence accountable and adds an extra to the strong midfield rotation. Jong could also play a similar role.

                  I think I have just convinced myself that Jong should be playing.
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                  • Ghost Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 9404

                    #10
                    Re: Match Preview: Western Bulldogs Vs Greater Western Sydney Giants

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    We will win this through the midfield. Although the general stats are similar, the two stats that we are way ahead of every team is the contested possession differential - we are 30 more on average than our opponents and disposals -100 ahead. We also have a stingy backline, although we will miss MBoyd. Adcock must take over that role and direct the young team. Midfield defence is where we are strong and we will limit the ball going into their tall forward line.
                    Love your positivity BAD. Sometimes injuries can energise a team and galvanise them. Back to the wall win Doggies.
                    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                    • BornInDroopSt'54
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 5172

                      #11
                      Re: Match Preview: Western Bulldogs Vs Greater Western Sydney Giants

                      Another reason to hate Gee We're Sensational is Cameron concussing JJ with an at speed hip to the head, and the tribunal letting him off.
                      They're hitting their straps and it will be great to knock them off but our midfield will have to outcontest them and our forward entries and finishing will need to very good. Do it for Bob, Ted, Charlie and John Schultz et al.
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