Game Day Round 9 2016 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs

**LostDoggy** · 22-05-2016, 07:37 PM

Re: Game Day Round 9 2016 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs

We were smashed today. I know the stats probably don't show it but we were way out-classed.

The fact they were 2 down for 80% of the match and still spread and out worked us was really alarming.

Dickson is just putrid when not inside 50. He needs to stay there.

Our depth is ok. But not good enough to cover 6 or 7 players out.

**always right** · 22-05-2016, 07:43 PM

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If GWS could choose the two players to go off injured, it would be Buntine and Mohr. They didn't really impact on their rotations and we don't have key forwards that couldn't be covered by others.

**Eastdog** · 22-05-2016, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by kruder

I'm not sure why you singled out Jong? Playing half forward and doubled teamed all day with a midfield boming it in long. Surely Dickson and Stringer were more disappointing?

Certainly was not the only that is for sure that was down. Agree Dicko and Stringer didn't have great days either. Adcock was not too bad today. How did you rate Roberts game?

**Mantis** · 22-05-2016, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by Jaytee

Our depth is ok. But not good enough to cover 6 or 7 players out.

Having 5 of those players missing from the one zone has stretched us a little too far, but besides some bad ball use our defence wasn't all that bad.. Just a little out classed.

**Eastdog** · 22-05-2016, 07:50 PM

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Not a great day today at the office. A lot of players way down. I liked Wood's game. Dahl, Picken battled really hard. Dale Morris is great. We had a some good ball movement but not enough and our forward line was below par today. Hunter got a lot of it early on. Thought Campbell did alright today. Despite the disappointment it was good we kept battling it out right at the end and not allow them to increase their lead and that's helps our percentage not getting a battering.

**hujsh** · 22-05-2016, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by GVGjr

I'm not knocking Williams and I was genuinely pleased with his game but he was a loose man for a decent stretch and it's not apples and apples.

The thing is BAD, you consistently knock Adcock for not getting a lot of possessions but he was promoted from Footscray after a couple of games where he got a bit of the footy and you seem to discount that for him. When a younger guy gets a bit of the ball at Footscray you want him in but not so when it's an older guy. Your fascination with having the youngest playing list isn't right.

I've seen a bit of Footscray and there isn't a lot of players genuinely knocking the door down and a lot of the injured guys will still need a week or two at Footscray.

To me we never recruited Adcock to get 20 + possessions or to play 15 senior games, we got him to potentially back up the likes M.Boyd, Murphy and Morris during a long season. Losing Murphy just got him into the side a bit quicker than expected.

I don't want to get too invested in the Adcock discussion but I don't see how that is relevant now. If BAD want's to see more of an output from him at AFL level, the fact he racked up a few touches at VFL level weeks ago doesn't really change anything.

I understand why BAD would prefer to play younger players. One reason is
a) he thinks they might play better and if Adcock isn't giving us that much there's no harm in trying and
b) if Adcock isn't going to become a best 22-25 player (like Dickson did) but rather play a few games over a couple of years (like Goodes) then it may be that we're missing a chance to invest a few games into guys like Webb or Dunkley or to find out if Honeychurch will make it.

I don't think Adcock is horrible but I doubt he's the best guy short term or long term for the team.

**ratsmac** · 22-05-2016, 08:01 PM

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I thought Adcock was below average in the first half and average in the 2nd half. I think I have to come to terms with the fact that he is only an average player. He is definitely worth a spot in the team right now because we nothing better to bring in.

**1eyedog** · 22-05-2016, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by dadsgirl16

Dickson had a mare and not on his pat Malone ..not sure how you can single out Adcock

Cmon already with the Adcock love. Dicko has the runs on the board as do others who performed badly. Adcock has been bad to ordinary at best the moment he pulled on the jumper.

If he brings leadership then bring it and at least be strong at the contest. He simply hasn't been. Williams added more than Adcock today and I should think that Webb would as well. How he is keeping Webb out of the team is beyond my comprehension.

**1eyedog** · 22-05-2016, 08:09 PM

Re: Game Day Round 9 2016 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs

Originally posted by GVGjr

I'm not knocking Williams and I was genuinely pleased with his game but he was a loose man for a decent stretch and it's not apples and apples.

The thing is BAD, you consistently knock Adcock for not getting a lot of possessions but he was promoted from Footscray after a couple of games where he got a bit of the footy and you seem to discount that for him. When a younger guy gets a bit of the ball at Footscray you want him in but not so when it's an older guy. Your fascination with having the youngest playing list isn't right.

I've seen a bit of Footscray and there isn't a lot of players genuinely knocking the door down and a lot of the injured guys will still need a week or two at Footscray.

To me we never recruited Adcock to get 20 + possessions or to play 15 senior games, we got him to potentially back up the likes M.Boyd, Murphy and Morris during a long season. Losing Murphy just got him into the side a bit quicker than expected.

That's a cop out post. I've seen a bit of Footscray as well and feel HC and Webb would offer more. Rather than pot Adcock I'll ask a simple question. What does he bring to the team that keeps him in? Leadership? Hardness at contest? What does he bring that Webb, HC don't? Because if it comes down to dinky positional reasons I just don't think that's good enough reason and may actually have an effect on our ability to win contests and maybe even more than that.

**ledge** · 22-05-2016, 08:10 PM

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Anyone watch fox footy when Hunter kicked the first goal and the commentator says lets go to the western bulldogs coach Leon Cameron . So they went up to him and said you would be happy to get that goal on the board .. Whereas Leon replied well actually no I am not.
How stupid are the commentators ???

**Eastdog** · 22-05-2016, 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by ledge

Anyone watch fox footy when Hunter kicked the first goal and the commentator says lets go to the western bulldogs coach Leon Cameron . So they went up to him and said you would be happy to get that goal on the board .. Whereas Leon replied well actually no I am not.
How stupid are the commentators ???

Yep on the 7 coverage. Yes they are stupid that's for sure. They probably thought he was still associated with us.

**dadsgirl16** · 22-05-2016, 08:13 PM

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Not sure about the "Adcock love" and I too would love to see Webb get a go but just think he is being singled out and perhaps unfairly
..just saying..

**F'scary** · 22-05-2016, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by ledge

Anyone watch fox footy when Hunter kicked the first goal and the commentator says lets go to the western bulldogs coach Leon Cameron . So they went up to him and said you would be happy to get that goal on the board .. Whereas Leon replied well actually no I am not.
How stupid are the commentators ???

Yeah I saw that on ch7 too, I think it was the syphilis guy who asked it.

**LostDoggy** · 22-05-2016, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by ledge

Anyone watch fox footy when Hunter kicked the first goal and the commentator says lets go to the western bulldogs coach Leon Cameron . So they went up to him and said you would be happy to get that goal on the board .. Whereas Leon replied well actually no I am not.
How stupid are the commentators ???

Plenty of blokes looking for a job, they should be amongst them.

**Eastdog** · 22-05-2016, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Rooner

Plenty of blokes looking for a job, they should be amongst them.

You would think with a record TV rights deal we would get good commentators who know their stuff.

Game Day Round 9 2016 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs

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