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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    2017 Rookie List

    Ok, first assumption is the rookie list remains. The second assumption is Wallis & Redders are doing 12 months rehab and will be on the long term injury list, therefore two rookies can be promoted until they get back in the park mid-late 2017.

    So what's our rookie list strategy now? Do we need two ready to go AFL players for depth? Does Adcock get a reprieve? Do we keep Lynch there as a second year rookie looking to have him take an opportunity? Do we continue to mine for gems irregardless?
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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #2
    Re: 2017 Rookie List

    As for this year, do we elevate any rookies in Adcock, Roarke or Lynch?
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    • ledge
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2007
      • 14304

      #3
      Re: 2017 Rookie List

      Definitely not Adcock and we need to keep SMith and Lynch , Smith is in his second year and I think we can keep him on another year due to injury .. The rule is only two years I believe , Lynch has another year.
      Smith I would upgrade.
      Bring back the biff

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66700

        #4
        Re: 2017 Rookie List

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        As for this year, do we elevate any rookies in Adcock, Roarke or Lynch?
        I think we can get through the rest of the year without an upgrade.

        I certainly don't want Adcock in to replace Wally, but I bet he does depending on his form today.
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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44634

          #5
          Re: 2017 Rookie List

          Originally posted by bornadog
          I think we can get through the rest of the year without an upgrade.

          I certainly don't want Adcock in to replace Wally, but I bet he does depending on his form today.
          Why is that? You know I'm going to ask
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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66700

            #6
            Re: 2017 Rookie List

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Why is that? You know I'm going to ask
            Ok, when he did play earlier in the year, I just didn't see the contribution he should have been making for such an experienced player. Picking up an average of 14 disposals in his 6 games to me was a poor return.

            How is he going today?
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            • Rocco Jones
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jun 2008
              • 6932

              #7
              Re: 2017 Rookie List

              I am with you bad, no Adcock. I was pro drafting him but he looks cooked at AFL level. Losing a yard off his pace has been deadly to his career.

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              • Bulldog4life
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 9607

                #8
                Re: 2017 Rookie List

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                Ok, first assumption is the rookie list remains. The second assumption is Wallis & Redders are doing 12 months rehab and will be on the long term injury list, therefore two rookies can be promoted until they get back in the park mid-late 2017.

                So what's our rookie list strategy now? Do we need two ready to go AFL players for depth? Does Adcock get a reprieve? Do we keep Lynch there as a second year rookie looking to have him take an opportunity? Do we continue to mine for gems irregardless?
                Do we know for sure that Wally's rehab will be 12 months?

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66700

                  #9
                  Re: 2017 Rookie List

                  Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                  Do we know for sure that Wally's rehab will be 12 months?
                  DEpends the spot he has broken his foot. Doc Larkin says could be back for round one on best case.
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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #10
                    Re: 2017 Rookie List

                    Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                    Do we know for sure that Wally's rehab will be 12 months?
                    It seems to be near identical to Jake's broken leg. Looking at Judas Brown and others who have done similar, about 12 months to get to AFL game ready fitness is an uneducated guess on my part being that he's broken both bones in the leg.
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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 18029

                      #11
                      Re: 2017 Rookie List

                      Not a chance Wally is back for the start of next season. He'll be pushing to be ready for the start of 2018.

                      It's not a broken foot, it's 2 snapped bones in his leg, identical to Stringer as BT mentioned.
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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66700

                        #12
                        Re: 2017 Rookie List

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        Not a chance Wally is back for the start of next season. He'll be pushing to be ready for the start of 2018.

                        It's not a broken foot, it's 2 snapped bones in his leg, identical to Stringer as BT mentioned.
                        You are most likely right. This is what was reported:

                        Doc Larkins believes the break was closer to ankle which is a better result for Mitch.
                        Which leaves the door open for Mitch Wallis to be back for rd 1, 2017 depending on rehab.
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                        • Doc26
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3087

                          #13
                          Re: 2017 Rookie List

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          It seems to be near identical to Jake's broken leg. Looking at Judas Brown and others who have done similar, about 12 months to get to AFL game ready fitness is an uneducated guess on my part being that he's broken both bones in the leg.
                          David Young, our orthopedic surgeon, pretty much indicated that with such a break for running athletes any return inside 12 months runs a risk although they would be doing their best to get Wally ready earlier. Apparently Mitch is going into surgery today.

                          Jack will undergo his third knee reconstruction, his first on his right knee and will be a traditional reco.

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                          • lemmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6521

                            #14
                            Re: 2017 Rookie List

                            Originally posted by Doc26
                            David Young, our orthopedic surgeon, pretty much indicated that with such a break for running athletes any return inside 12 months runs a risk although they would be doing their best to get Wally ready earlier. Aparrently Mitch is going into surgery today.

                            Jack will undergo his third knee reconstruction, his first on his right knee and will be a traditional reco.
                            No evidence to back this up but it seems so much harder for guys who break both bones to come back the same player, Nathan Brown never was. The steadier we take it the better

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                            • FrediKanoute
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 3826

                              #15
                              Re: 2017 Rookie List

                              Agreed he needs time-- its not just the physical, but the mental that he needs to get right. If Wally plays next year at all its a bonus.

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