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  • Topdog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7471

    #16
    Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    As per the news article today, read in conjunction with the story behind this thread. We could have as much as $1,500,000 banked in salary cap savings ready to spend this year on a player as we were still under the cap this year..
    Which news article?

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #17
      Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

      Originally posted by Topdog
      Which news article?
      Its on the Dogs Day board. We paid under the cap again this year, despite the cries about Boyd stretching has to breaking point.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27656

        #18
        Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        As per the news article today, read in conjunction with the story behind this thread. We could have as much as $1,500,000 banked in salary cap savings ready to spend this year on a player as we were still under the cap this year. Plus Crameri's wage getting banked. Plus the EBA will be signed off which could be another $500,000 or more a year increase. That's ball park $2,300,000 we could spend next year, less any salary increases given to players who also got a premiership cash bonus from the AFL.

        We can literally go shopping for whomever we want, provided we can satisfy the trade. What a master stroke from the club to have this opportunity available if we want to use it.
        Speaking of the premiership bonus does that count in this year's cap or next year's cap or both?
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #19
          Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          Speaking of the premiership bonus does that count in this year's cap or next year's cap or both?
          Outside the cap. It's from the AFEL, not the club/club's player payment.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Twodogs
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            • Nov 2006
            • 27656

            #20
            Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            Outside the cap. It's from the AFEL, not the club/club's player payment.

            That makes sense.

            Are you sure it's right?
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #21
              Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

              Originally posted by Twodogs
              That makes sense.

              Are you sure it's right?
              That's what I've read, it's a winners bonus direct from the AFEL as the players prize money for winning the flag. In the Hawks & Geelong years they were 100% salary cap and their players got the bonus payments from the AFEL. If they were included in the cap the AFEL would've made them exceed the cap.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • Bulldog4life
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 9607

                #22
                Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                That's what I've read, it's a winners bonus direct from the AFEL as the players prize money for winning the flag. In the Hawks & Geelong years they were 100% salary cap and their players got the bonus payments from the AFEL. If they were included in the cap the AFEL would've made them exceed the cap.
                The current cash prize for the winning club is A$1 million according to Wiki.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #23
                  Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

                  Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                  The current cash prize for the winning club is A$1 million according to Wiki.
                  Yep, as I understand it $1M to the club, and about $600,000 to the players.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44697

                    #24
                    Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    That's what I've read, it's a winners bonus direct from the AFEL as the players prize money for winning the flag. In the Hawks & Geelong years they were 100% salary cap and their players got the bonus payments from the AFEL. If they were included in the cap the AFEL would've made them exceed the cap.
                    You're right it doesn't go onto the cap otherwise some clubs would be wrecked the following season having to trade away players.
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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27656

                      #25
                      Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      Speaking of the premiership bonus does that count in this year's cap or next year's cap or both?
                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      Outside the cap. It's from the AFEL, not the club/club's player payment.
                      Actually that's not really the question that I meant to ask. What I wanted to know is are there any accounting methods or other ways of using the premiership bonus to help us salary cap wise?
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13239

                        #26
                        Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

                        Originally posted by Twodogs
                        Actually that's not really the question that I meant to ask. What I wanted to know is are there any accounting methods or other ways of using the premiership bonus to help us salary cap wise?
                        You mean the extra cash to take us closer to using 100% of it?
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27656

                          #27
                          Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

                          Originally posted by 1eyedog
                          You mean the extra cash to take us closer to using 100% of it?
                          I think so?
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #28
                            Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

                            Originally posted by Twodogs
                            Actually that's not really the question that I meant to ask. What I wanted to know is are there any accounting methods or other ways of using the premiership bonus to help us salary cap wise?
                            That's income to the club for use how ever we want to use it. There's no specific salary cap advantage per se.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27656

                              #29
                              Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              That's income to the club for use how ever we want to use it. There's no specific salary cap advantage per se.

                              So there aren't conditions attached like X amount must go to the players? I think it's 1.2 mil. The AFEL don't write out seperate cheques of 600k to the club and 600k to the players, it all just goes into the club account?

                              I wonder if all the players in the list, or just senior game players or just players who played in the GF will get a cut?
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • Twodogs
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27656

                                #30
                                Re: So here is why WBFC are smarter than journos & talk back nuffies.

                                I've been meaning to ask how many changes did we make during the whole campaign? Was it just the two from the elimination final team? Or was there another from the EF to the semi final?
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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