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  • Sockeye Salmon
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6365

    #16
    Re: Ball movement question

    Originally posted by dog town
    It can be a problem especially when we are under the pump a little bit.

    Lake- I actually think that when he plays instinctively and kicks long and with some sort of forward momentum that he is a nice kick. It is when he over thinks the situation and chips the ball off a step that he lets himself down.

    Morris- He is just a poor ball user. Has gotten better but will never really have hurt sides by foot. Lacks any real penetration in his kicking.

    Addison- Probably our worst player by foot. Still time for him to tidy it up a little bit but will never really hurt sides.

    Callan- Is obviously not a great user of the footy but I didn't think his use was particularly bad the other night. Just needs to be aware of what he is capable of so that he can eliminate his errors. Been massively impressed with the toughness he brings so his disposal would have to be pretty ordinary at the moment to shift him.

    It is probably a good point MJP makes because for the first 3 quarters Gilbee barely touched it and we really had trouble moving the ball at times in the second and third quarters. I think that was mainly to do with us kicking to short and not running hard enough but our lack of foot skills off half back may have also contributed. Bringing Everitt into the mix would help but making sure we get plenty out of Gilbee should be our first priority.
    If I was coaching against us shutting down Gilbee would just about be my no. 1 priority.

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    • dog town
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2007
      • 1925

      #17
      Re: Ball movement question

      Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
      If I was coaching against us shutting down Gilbee would just about be my no. 1 priority.
      Same. He seems to cope with it most weeks though. Griff and Murphy are other options I suppose but god knows what we would do if Gilbee went down for an extended period. This thread really highlights our reliance on him at the moment.

      Depending on how the season pans out it is an area we might need to address at trade time. Quite a few guys jump out straight away as being possibly available but you would like to see how we develop this year first. Getting Everitt up and running must be a priority.

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      • ledge
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2007
        • 14551

        #18
        Re: Ball movement question

        Will you blokes stop giving Wallace ideas!!
        Sockeye if Wallace wins game and says oh i read on a website shut down Gilbee and it worked, i think 200 of us are going to slap you!
        Just quietly wouldnt be surprised Wallace does things outside the square.
        Bring back the biff

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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15547

          #19
          Re: Ball movement question

          Originally posted by ledge
          Will you blokes stop giving Wallace ideas!!
          Sockeye if Wallace wins game and says oh i read on a website shut down Gilbee and it worked, i think 200 of us are going to slap you!
          Just quietly wouldnt be surprised Wallace does things outside the square.
          Why is stopping Gilbee thinking outside the square?

          The modern game is primarily won in in two simple ways :

          1. Dominating the midfield - clearances follwed by inside 50's.
          2. Rebound from defence.

          On this simple theory you need to stop the opposition's best midfielders and best rebounding player's. Simple stuff really.

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          • ledge
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2007
            • 14551

            #20
            Re: Ball movement question

            Originally posted by Mantis
            Why is stopping Gilbee thinking outside the square?

            The modern game is primarily won in in two simple ways :

            1. Dominating the midfield - clearances follwed by inside 50's.
            2. Rebound from defence.

            On this simple theory you need to stop the opposition's best midfielders and best rebounding player's. Simple stuff really.
            Didnt mean stopping Gilbee is outside the square i meant Wallace getting information off a website like this .
            Bring back the biff

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            • Missing Dog
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8501

              #21
              Re: Ball movement question

              watching on the weekend I actually thought Callan's disposal was improving. Yes he still had some up-and-under Barry Crockers but he also had a few successful ones in there too. I would also say that one area of Callan's decision making is very good and that is getting to the right spot where the ball is gonna be. He seems very good at knowing when to leave his man and be 3rd man up and also seems quite good at running into space out of defence and making himself available. the latter might be in part as opposition teams arent too worried about him b/c if he gets the ball there is a fair chance a clanger follows but from a purely decision making point of view he makes some good choices in reading the play and getting the ball.

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