Round 1 Team, 2017.

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  • Ozza
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Mar 2008
    • 6412

    #76
    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

    I heard an interview with Dicko during the year, where he was saying that this year he wasn't able to practice his goal kicking as much, because he had more issues with managing his body (niggles) than the previous season, and as a result his kicking hadn't been quite as good.

    Still a tremendous level of accuracy, but does give some insight as to the trickle down affect on aspects of a players game, when they have some niggles that impact preparation.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #77
      Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

      That goal against Heath Shaw in the prelim, his first I believe, was amazing. Libba let Shaw know about it, Shaw spat the dummy, jumper punches everywhere, brilliant. He's in my best 22 by a fair way.

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      • 1eyedog
        Hall of Fame
        • Mar 2008
        • 13222

        #78
        Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

        Originally posted by Giansiraccuser
        That goal against Heath Shaw in the prelim, his first I believe, was amazing. Libba let Shaw know about it, Shaw spat the dummy, jumper punches everywhere, brilliant. He's in my best 22 by a fair way.
        Not by a fair way for me.

        That goal was amazing, but so was McLean's snap on the siren in the granny. McLean's a yard quicker, has a touch more class, is better above his head and is equally proficient in set shots. Dicko is best 22 but I wouldn't be upset if McLean was picked before him and I expect if Dicko does play deep forward that he needs to replicate his 2014 form to be sustainable there.
        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14910

          #79
          Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

          Originally posted by Ozza
          Horror year for goal kicking for Dicko!! His 40.17 didn't stack up at all to his 50.12 the previous season!
          Yep, need Clay "8 goals 1 in finals" Smith to help him out
          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            #80
            Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

            Originally posted by Mofra
            Yep, need Clay "8 goals 1 in finals" Smith to help him out
            And the behind was his easiest shot. 15m out on a slight angle. Hopefully our straight kicking at the end of the season hangs about next year.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • Topdog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7471

              #81
              Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

              Originally posted by 1eyedog
              Not by a fair way for me.

              That goal was amazing, but so was McLean's snap on the siren in the granny. McLean's a yard quicker, has a touch more class, is better above his head and is equally proficient in set shots. Dicko is best 22 but I wouldn't be upset if McLean was picked before him and I expect if Dicko does play deep forward that he needs to replicate his 2014 form to be sustainable there.
              16.11 in his career suggests otherwise.

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              • chef
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 14614

                #82
                Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

                Originally posted by 1eyedog
                Not by a fair way for me.

                That goal was amazing, but so was McLean's snap on the siren in the granny. McLean's a yard quicker, has a touch more class, is better above his head and is equally proficient in set shots. Dicko is best 22 but I wouldn't be upset if McLean was picked before him and I expect if Dicko does play deep forward that he needs to replicate his 2014 form to be sustainable there.

                I'd have Dickson a fair way in front of Toby myself. With Crammers back and Cloke to slot in I can see a big year coming up for Tory.
                The curse is dead.

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                • soupman
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 5105

                  #83
                  Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

                  Originally posted by 1eyedog
                  Not by a fair way for me.

                  That goal was amazing, but so was McLean's snap on the siren in the granny. McLean's a yard quicker, has a touch more class, is better above his head and is equally proficient in set shots. Dicko is best 22 but I wouldn't be upset if McLean was picked before him and I expect if Dicko does play deep forward that he needs to replicate his 2014 form to be sustainable there.
                  Geez as good as McLean was in the finals this is a bit rough on Dickson. He's kicked 90 goals in the past two years, has shown an ability to push up the ground and has stepped up countless times when we have needed someone to convert a goal. He also has an excellent ability to stay in the game without the ball with his pressure. I'd suggest he would just about be our first forward picked, even ahead of Stringer.
                  I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13222

                    #84
                    Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

                    I have Dicko in my best 22. I'm saying McLean is snapping at his heels. What I said is that I wouldn't be upset if McLean is selected before him. I'm not saying he should be...

                    Re. McLean's goal kicking proficiency you need to take into account that many of his opportunities are in general play and that he usually nails his set shots, or at least has at the back end of this season. McLean is less a lead, mark, kick goal than Tory is (even though Tory also hits the scoreboard opportunistically).
                    Last edited by 1eyedog; 25-10-2016, 01:14 PM.
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • Cyberdoggie
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 2859

                      #85
                      Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

                      I think Toby's scope for improvement is obviously much higher. Especially now coming into his third year, we should see him fill out a bit more and improve on his fitness again, that will make a huge difference to maximizing his ability.

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                      • Rocco Jones
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6928

                        #86
                        Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

                        Dickson has 90 goals in the last 2 seasons, include 15 goals in 5 finals.

                        Our side is good, really good but he makes any side's 22.

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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11866

                          #87
                          Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

                          Originally posted by 1eyedog
                          Not by a fair way for me.

                          That goal was amazing, but so was McLean's snap on the siren in the granny. McLean's a yard quicker, has a touch more class, is better above his head and is equally proficient in set shots. Dicko is best 22 but I wouldn't be upset if McLean was picked before him and I expect if Dicko does play deep forward that he needs to replicate his 2014 form to be sustainable there.
                          He's a long way off replicating Dickon's output at this point.
                          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                          • 1eyedog
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 13222

                            #88
                            Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

                            Originally posted by hujsh
                            He's a long way off replicating Dickon's output at this point.
                            At this point agreed.
                            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21769

                              #89
                              Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

                              There's not a single premiership winning 22 that Dickson wouldn't have gotten a game in based on his form from these past two years.

                              Remember how we were all dismayed at how high our forwards were playing and how poor our ability to work forward cohesively was when we had cattle out of the side each week and were barely cobbling a side together? That sort of thing has a very big impact on specialist forward pocket and flankers, but Dickson still managed to get his hands on the footy and be involved. Sure it impacted his scoring, but given a different structure there's not reason his numbers from last year wouldn't have been replicated.

                              I really like Toby, and as for the comparison with he and Dickson he's more inclined to get his hands on the footy. But, hitting the scoreboard at half the rate is a big gap to bridge.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • 1eyedog
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 13222

                                #90
                                Re: Round 1 Team, 2017.

                                Originally posted by jeemak
                                There's not a single premiership winning 22 that Dickson wouldn't have gotten a game in based on his form from these past two years.

                                Remember how we were all dismayed at how high our forwards were playing and how poor our ability to work forward cohesively was when we had cattle out of the side each week and were barely cobbling a side together? That sort of thing has a very big impact on specialist forward pocket and flankers, but Dickson still managed to get his hands on the footy and be involved. Sure it impacted his scoring, but given a different structure there's not reason his numbers from last year wouldn't have been replicated.

                                I really like Toby, and as for the comparison with he and Dickson he's more inclined to get his hands on the footy. But, hitting the scoreboard at half the rate is a big gap to bridge.
                                I have no idea what the last paragraph means.
                                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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