Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

    Superstition, I'm not changing anything I've done the last two weeks. How do we strategise a win in our preliminary final?

    Last time Shaw slaughtered us. So send Clay Smith or Liam Picken to him?

    Their forward line will have two very good smalls plus Patton, Cameron & Lobb. Do we need to add an extra tall defender or an extra ruck in a horses for courses selection?

    Do we need to have Tom Boyd more forward to stretch their defence?

    Who are they guys we need to shut down? For the last two weeks we've been able to shutdown opposition prime movers and working off them.

    How do we nullify their the run & carry, and impact their elite foot skills?
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #2
    Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

    When we played them at spotless earlier this year:

    15.8 to 10.13 - So we generated the same amount of scoring shots, but lost by 25 points.
    They had 60 more kicks. 30 more uncontested possessions. 60 more marks. 30 more tackles including 17 more tackles inside 50. They only had a slight hitout advantage against Camhead.

    Cameron kicked 5, Green kicked 3 & Johnson (suspended now) kicked 2. The rest were singles. Shaw had 38 possession, of which 36 were kicks and had 14 marks.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • westbulldog
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2009
      • 1822

      #3
      Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

      Shaw must not be allowed to run around unmarked and set up their attack from defence. It was so frustrating watching this happen last time, he is not that good people.

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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 18030

        #4
        Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

        Don't kick points and let Shaw do that little kick to himself. That stat padding BS ****s me to tears.
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • Bulldog4life
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 9607

          #5
          Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

          Our team is stronger now. There were 8 changes to the team last night compared to when we played GWS. The team is below how we lined up last time against them.


          B
          Kieran Collins,
          Fletcher Roberts,
          Jed Adcock
          .

          HB
          Shane Biggs,
          Dale Morris,
          Easton Wood
          .

          C
          Lachie Hunter,
          Tom Liberatore,
          Tory Dickson
          .

          HF
          Caleb Daniel,
          Jake Stringer,
          Koby Stevens
          .

          F
          Luke Dahlhaus,
          Tom Campbell,
          Mitch Wallis
          .

          Fol
          Jordan Roughead,
          Jack Macrae,
          Marcus Bontempelli
          .

          I/C
          Toby McLean,
          Bailey Williams,
          Liam Picken,
          Lin Jong

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          • westdog54
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6686

            #6
            Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

            So we've got an entirely new backline, plus Dunkley, Tom Boyd and Clay Smith, all of whom have been superb in this finals series so far.

            Looking purely at the backline, JJ, M Boyd and Hamling is a monumental improvement on what we sent up to Sydney last time.

            We structure up the way we have over the last fortnight and we go a long way to curbing Shaw's influence.

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            • EasternWest
              Hall of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 10002

              #7
              Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

              Originally posted by westdog54
              So we've got an entirely new backline, plus Dunkley, Tom Boyd and Clay Smith, all of whom have been superb in this finals series so far.

              Looking purely at the backline, JJ, M Boyd and Hamling is a monumental improvement on what we sent up to Sydney last time.

              We structure up the way we have over the last fortnight and we go a long way to curbing Shaw's influence.
              I love his willingness to be physical. He's still got a ways to go, but he's most definitely doing his bit.
              "It's over. It's all over."

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              • DOG GOD
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jul 2007
                • 6545

                #8
                Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

                Simple things will give us a real show...

                be harder at the ball, control the stoppages, win the contested footy, TAG Shaw, don't miss set shots from 30.
                I will never see #16 the same!!

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66707

                  #9
                  Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

                  Bevo said today on SEN that GWS plays a very similar game to Hawthorn, and last night was like a practise on how will play GWS. He did concede that since we last played them they have added a bit of contested footy to their style.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 21830

                    #10
                    Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

                    Sydney in week one of the finals were insipid and didn't give a whimper to the GWS intensity compared to their usual standards. If we bring anything similar to what we have these past two weeks in terms of intensity then GWS won't know what's hit them.

                    The ground should be a lot easier to defend in terms of closing down space, but we can be exposed easily if we get caught ball watching or defending too high.
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 18030

                      #11
                      Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

                      Sydney also lost a couple of key players and their best inside mid was knocked out early.

                      My hope is we literally blitz them with inhuman pressure and stress them to the point they implode.
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • Remi Moses
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 14785

                        #12
                        Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

                        Shaw and Williams off half back must be stopped .
                        Mantain the rage

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                        • MrMahatma
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3965

                          #13
                          Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

                          Originally posted by westdog54
                          So we've got an entirely new backline, plus Dunkley, Tom Boyd and Clay Smith, all of whom have been superb in this finals series so far.

                          Looking purely at the backline, JJ, M Boyd and Hamling is a monumental improvement on what we sent up to Sydney last time.
                          .
                          Suckling too.

                          Our line up is monumentally better and in better form than last time. It'll be a very different game of footy.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #14
                            Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

                            Picken on Heath Shaw seems the go. Can be very tight defensively, but can also expose Shaw, especially overhead and toughness in the contest.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #15
                              Re: Strategising a Win Against GWS - Preliminary Final 2016

                              Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                              Picken on Heath Shaw seems the go. Can be very tight defensively, but can also expose Shaw, especially overhead and toughness in the contest.
                              I like it. Picken has 5 goals in two finals so far so this should be some pressure on Shaw & Leon Cameron.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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