Send off rule.

[Bornadog]

Re: Send off rule.

Will the AFL once more have a knee jerk reaction to the Webster hit and bring in a send off rule?

[Grantysghost]

Re: Send off rule.

Will the AFL once more have a knee jerk reaction to the Webster hit and bring in a send off rule?

Would that be a bad thing? I don't think he should remain on the field personally.

[Bornadog]

Re: Send off rule.

Would that be a bad thing? I don't think he should remain on the field personally.

On the one hand I say ok, but on the other, I would not give power to umpires

[GVGjr]

Re: Send off rule.

Will the AFL once more have a knee jerk reaction to the Webster hit and bring in a send off rule?

If the AFL follow through themselves and apply the rules consistently and not worry about the status of the player or if finals are involved and also hand out a substantial suspensions when needed there shouldn't be a need for umpires to do anything else but umpire the game.
I'm not really in favor of an umpire having to make that decision in the heat of a game.
Umpires report players, they don't determine what the suspension should be. That needs to happen by a separate panel.

[Bornadog]

Re: Send off rule.

If the AFL follow through themselves and apply the rules consistently and not worry about the status of the player or if finals are involved and also hand out a substantial suspensions when needed there shouldn't be a need for umpires to do anything else but umpire the game.
I'm not really in favor of an umpire having to make that decision in the heat of a game.
Umpires report players, they don't determine what the suspension should be. That needs to happen by a separate panel.

I am not advocating for a send off rule, but, what they could do is have the third umpire review the video (like VAR), and then make a decision.

[GVGjr]

Re: Send off rule.

I am not advocating for a send off rule, but, what they could do is have the third umpire review the video (like VAR), and then make a decision.

I get that but to me more umpires isn't the answer. Make the penalties a strong deterrent, apply them evenly and that should work it's way through the competition very quickly. Before we get to a send off rule lets get the basics right.

[Bornadog]

Re: Send off rule.

I get that but to me more umpires isn't the answer. Make the penalties a strong deterrent, apply them evenly and that should work it's way through the competition very quickly. Before we get to a send off rule lets get the basics right.

I totally agree, but I am predicting what the AFL are thinking

[Grantysghost]

Re: Send off rule.

I get that but to me more umpires isn't the answer. Make the penalties a strong deterrent, apply them evenly and that should work it's way through the competition very quickly. Before we get to a send off rule lets get the basics right.

Other sports can do it ok? Why cant the AFL?

[GVGjr]

Re: Send off rule.

Other sports can do it ok? Why cant the AFL?

History would say we will need a few iterations before we get it close to being right.
I was all for a send off rule when there were players throwing haymakers etc but that has stopped.
If we get the penalties right it might not been a huge priority.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Send off rule.

If the AFL follow through themselves and apply the rules consistently and not worry about the status of the player or if finals are involved and also hand out a substantial suspensions when needed there shouldn't be a need for umpires to do anything else but umpire the game.
I'm not really in favor of an umpire having to make that decision in the heat of a game.
Umpires report players, they don't determine what the suspension should be. That needs to happen by a separate panel.

I agree. Again look to Rugby Union, the player gets a yellow card and the matter is referred to the Video Ref. It is then assessed and upgraded to a red if warranted based on a 10 min assessment of the video information against a set of clear parameters.

[GVGjr]

Re: Send off rule.

With the proposed send off rule that would mean a team being down to 17 or are we saying a tactical sub could be activated meaning that the side is just one player down on the IC bench or are they one player down on the field?

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Send off rule.

With the proposed send off rule that would mean a team being down to 17 or are we saying a tactical sub could be activated meaning that the side is just one player down on the IC bench or are they one player down on the field?

For me, it's one player down on the bench. Definitely not the field.

[GVGjr]

Re: Send off rule.

For me, it's one player down on the bench. Definitely not the field.

But if we are using the EPL and the World Game as an example on how the send off rule works well, you would be a player down on the field.

I guess if we took it to that level it could fix the problem pretty quickly because the coaches wouldn't accept it.

One thing I discussed with a mate last night and his suggestion in that back in the AFL HQ you would have the footage of all games beamed in and a small panel would adjudicate if a player should be sent off. So if something happened early in the first quarter the panel would look at it and contact the umpire and say player x isn't allowed back on after quarter time etc.

I think our crowds want the AFL to get serious about concussions but I wonder how they would react early in a game when one of their players were sent off.

[Bornadog]

Re: Send off rule.

But if we are using the EPL and the World Game as an example on how the send off rule works well, you would be a player down on the field.

I guess if we took it to that level it could fix the problem pretty quickly because the coaches wouldn't accept it.

One thing I discussed with a mate last night and his suggestion in that back in the AFL HQ you would have the footage of all games beamed in and a small panel would adjudicate if a player should be sent off. So if something happened early in the first quarter the panel would look at it and contact the umpire and say player x isn't allowed back on after quarter time etc.

I think our crowds want the AFL to get serious about concussions but I wonder how they would react early in a game when one of their players were sent off.

AFL have ruled out bringing in a Red card system.

[SonofScray]

Re: Send off rule.

The AFL cannot be trusted to fairly implement a red card system.