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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14179

    #16
    Re: Umpiring questions

    I think the AFL has lost all common sense on what a 50m penalty is. It should be only paid if the player deliberatley offends again. I mean a lot of them are given now when the umpire hasnt even blown his whistle for first free kick so how does the player know when to stop?
    And speaking of stop, half the time i dont think the player hears the whistle with the crowd noise, how about giving the player the benefit of the doubt and only giving 50s when its damn obvious they are flaunting the rules.
    The 50s given now against players in marking contests are ridiculous, i mean so what if they are a split second too late, the player has to compete. Its not like its after the umpire has called a mark, players have to keep going until they hear the whistle.
    Bring back the biff

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    • Sockeye Salmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6365

      #17
      Re: Umpiring questions

      Originally posted by ledge
      I think the AFL has lost all common sense on what a 50m penalty is. It should be only paid if the player deliberatley offends again. I mean a lot of them are given now when the umpire hasnt even blown his whistle for first free kick so how does the player know when to stop?
      And speaking of stop, half the time i dont think the player hears the whistle with the crowd noise, how about giving the player the benefit of the doubt and only giving 50s when its damn obvious they are flaunting the rules.
      The 50s given now against players in marking contests are ridiculous, i mean so what if they are a split second too late, the player has to compete. Its not like its after the umpire has called a mark, players have to keep going until they hear the whistle.
      For the most part I don't have a problem with the way 50m penalties are being handed out. That's about the only part of umpiring I can follow at the moment.

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      • FatDog

        #18
        Re: Umpiring questions

        Schultz clearly kicks it to himself with 2:44 left on the clock.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #19
          Re: Umpiring questions

          Was that where Benny HUdson was running towards him, to force the behind? Up the doggies cheersquad end?

          Im pretty sure he didnt kick it to himself, just walked back over the line, not really sure if it was schultz tho.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66272

            #20
            Re: Umpiring questions

            Originally posted by lowedog
            Couldn't believe thtat mark to richo was paid. It was clearly over the line, but with the feral cheersquad in full voice behingd the goal ump, intimidation might have been a factor. I couldn't believe that the goal ump had to confer with the field ump. He was standing 30 mtrs away no where near the boundry. That was astonishing. Wasn't the reason we didn't win, but still made me scratch my head.
            Same thing happened the previous week when Fletcher marked the ball when it had gone through.

            The Richo one was a disgraceful mistake by the goal umpire and I have my doubts on the Fletcher one as it looked similiar
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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14179

              #21
              Re: Umpiring questions

              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
              For the most part I don't have a problem with the way 50m penalties are being handed out. That's about the only part of umpiring I can follow at the moment.
              50 m penalties are supposed to be given when a player deliberately offends a second time, not tiggy touchwood crap,to me its becoming so much like netball.
              Bring back the biff

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66272

                #22
                Re: Umpiring questions

                Originally posted by ledge
                50 m penalties are supposed to be given when a player deliberately offends a second time, not tiggy touchwood crap,to me its becoming so much like netball.
                The 50m penalty given to Gilbee was definanetly there dispute Tim Watson not understanding why. Gilbee was behind is mark and began to kick the ball. A Richmond player stepped in from the side to tackle him and was within 5 metres, so he ran over the mark. On the replay, Tim Watson keeps saying he doesn't understand it, but its very clear.
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                • Topdog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7471

                  #23
                  Re: Umpiring questions

                  Tim Watson didn't understand something ..... I'm shocked.

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                  • Ghost Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 9404

                    #24
                    Re: Umpiring questions

                    2008 - Been a while since this thread was dusted off.
                    Lord almighty just watching 'Whistle blowers' on the AFL site.
                    Hayden Kennedy joins Nat Edwards for the round 21 edition of Whistleblowers


                    Hayden Kennedy sounding not at all confident with the rushed behind rule and admitting umpires are getting it wrong.
                    He indicates " We don't know where this is going ( rule ) next year." Talk about half-arsed. It will cost somebody a final.
                    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66272

                      #25
                      Re: Umpiring questions

                      All I have to say about that analysis is what is wrong with conceding a score, and why have we changed the interpretation of deliberate OOB?

                      The AFL has made the umpires job even harder and just confused everyone.
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                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27654

                        #26
                        Re: Umpiring questions

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        All I have to say about that analysis is what is wrong with conceding a score, and why have we changed the interpretation of deliberate OOB?

                        The AFL has made the umpires job even harder and just confused everyone.
                        Yep the AFL make the umpires job so hard.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11851

                          #27
                          Re: Umpiring questions

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          All I have to say about that analysis is what is wrong with conceding a score, and why have we changed the interpretation of deliberate OOB?

                          The AFL has made the umpires job even harder and just confused everyone.
                          Well that's simply because when you look at the evidence and the alternatives you come the conclusion that BAAAALLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!
                          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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