2017 AFL Premiership Odds

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  • Topdog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7471

    #16
    Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

    I'm not at all convinced about Adelaide. Think their gameplan could come unstuck quite easily and to be honest they have some average players that had big years due to a gameplan that teams weren't ready for.

    Once a bit of pressure was applied guys like Jenkins absolutely fell apart and he is on big money now. They have lost midfield depth when they didnt have a lot and they still rely on Thompson in the middle which they shouldn't still be doing.

    Saints will finish top 8. Pretty much all of the top 8 got weaker this off season and I include GWS in that, improved first 22 but lost depth.

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18028

      #17
      Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

      Originally posted by Twodogs
      Dunno about that. It's not the lay down misere that it should be be. I worry about his diabetes. I can only think of Dale Weightman as a player who overcame full on diabetes to have a good career as a footballer.
      His penchant for getting his head caved in is also a concern.
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • Bulldog4life
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 9607

        #18
        Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

        As we proved during the prelim final against GWS a champion team beats a team of champions. Back to back for me.

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        • Ozza
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Mar 2008
          • 6401

          #19
          Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

          Although I think St.Kilda have had a good trade period, and a lot of their younger players should improve, I still worry that they are still quite reliant on their much older players.

          Next year Riewoldt will be 34, Fisher turning 35, Montagna & Dempster 33, Gilbert 31.

          They will probably be quite a good team this season, but things can change pretty quickly with the older players, and they do have a bit gulf in leadership between the older players - and the rest.

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          • Topdog
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7471

            #20
            Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

            Originally posted by Bulldog4life
            As we proved during the prelim final against GWS a champion team beats a team of champions. Back to back for me.
            Spot on mate and they are still largely unproven away from home. Only played 1 game at the G this year and that was a loss against Melbourne in round 1. Still think they may be flat track bullies a little bit.

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            • KT31
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jul 2008
              • 5454

              #21
              Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

              Originally posted by Topdog
              Spot on mate and they are still largely unproven away from home. Only played 1 game at the G this year and that was a loss against Melbourne in round 1. Still think they may be flat track bullies a little bit.
              Where as proven in our final series with our game plan we are capable of winning games at any ground, we are the 'All Track Bullies'.
              It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15304

                #22
                Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

                Originally posted by Twodogs
                Dunno about that. It's not the lay down misere that it should be be. I worry about his diabetes. I can only think of Dale Weightman as a player who overcame full on diabetes to have a good career as a footballer.
                Nathan Basset from the Crows also is another player.
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • 1eyedog
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 13235

                  #23
                  Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

                  Originally posted by westdog54
                  Should make the 8. If they finish outside the top 4 they're good enough on paper to win in week 1.

                  McCartin is only going to get better and Carlisle is instant improvement. He was a massive, massive loss for them this year.
                  If McCartin gets knocked out again that's the end for him.
                  But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                  • Axe Man
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 11159

                    #24
                    Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11245

                      #25
                      Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

                      Biggest problem for GWS is that they now have the same list size as everyone else so will be very susceptible to a run of injuries (which they avoided last year) as they now don't have the depth to cover them. Our incremental improvement from key players missing last year should off-set their improvement in gaining Deledio and off-loading list cloggers like Palmer.

                      They should be in it up to their eyeballs next season but they are miles from over the line.
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • Remi Moses
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 14785

                        #26
                        Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

                        Who really cares about the odds ?
                        Sounding like Norf fans crying on SEN about not being faves last season
                        I think our side and GWS are the two best sides in it

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                        • Remi Moses
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 14785

                          #27
                          Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          Biggest problem for GWS is that they now have the same list size as everyone else so will be very susceptible to a run of injuries (which they avoided last year) as they now don't have the depth to cover them. Our incremental improvement from key players missing last year should off-set their improvement in gaining Deledio and off-loading list cloggers like Palmer.

                          They should be in it up to their eyeballs next season but they are miles from over the line.
                          Agree sedat. They had a decent run at it this season, and it was interesting 12 months before that they fell apart with a few injuries .

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                          • S Coast Simon
                            WOOF Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 348

                            #28
                            Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

                            Originally posted by strebla
                            If I was the Saints I would make this boy wear a helmet he is a cracker but I do fear for his safety,
                            I am amazed that more players don't wear helmets. His career could be over with another big head injury.

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                            • Mofra
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 14946

                              #29
                              Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

                              Originally posted by comrade
                              His penchant for getting his head caved in is also a concern.
                              Harry O missed most of the year with concussion concerns, McCartin had three last year.
                              Not good signs for the kid.
                              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                              • Axe Man
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 11159

                                #30
                                Re: 2017 AFL Premiership Odds

                                Originally posted by strebla
                                If I was the Saints I would make this boy wear a helmet he is a cracker but I do fear for his safety,
                                Originally posted by S Coast Simon
                                I am amazed that more players don't wear helmets. His career could be over with another big head injury.
                                I'm fairly sure that doctors say that helmets in football do little to prevent concussion. I'm no medical expert but I guess it makes sense - the brain is still going to get bounced around in the skull from a heavy hit. A helmet might prevent you from getting a fractured skull I guess.

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