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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

    Seven clubs fined for Anti-Doping Code breach
    Peter Ryan - afl.com.au
    November 9, 2016 3:45 PM

    SEVEN clubs have been fined for breaches of rules relating to player whereabouts information under the AFL Anti-Doping Code.

    Hawthorn was sanctioned $7500 for three breaches, West Coast and Geelong $5000 each for two breaches and Collingwood, Essendon, the Western Bulldogs and St Kilda $2500 for one breach apiece.

    AFL players must provide complete up-to-date whereabouts information at all times for testing purposes as they may be tested 365 days a year for WADA prohibited drugs.

    Although the AFL found the failures were due to administrative errors rather than an intentional breach, the AFL's general counsel Andrew Dillon said all clubs needed to be diligent in meeting their paperwork requirements.

    Meanwhile, ASADA and the AFL are yet to complete investigations into a case involving Greater Western Sydney player Lachie Whitfield and former officials Graeme Allan and Craig Lambert.

    The trio is being investigated over allegations Whitfield went out of his way to avoid drug testers early last year.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #2
    Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

    Why didn't we just tell them the exonerating evidence was on a lost mobile phone?
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18030

      #3
      Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

      Good timing by the AFEL. Releasing some unflattering news amidst the Trumping of America.
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27655

        #4
        Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

        Originally posted by comrade
        Good timing by the AFEL. Releasing some unflattering news amidst the Trumping of America.


        The year of the underdog effect again.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • Murphy'sLore
          WOOF Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 2085

          #5
          Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

          This was one underdog result this year I did NOT want to see.

          Sorry, politics. As you were.

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          • hujsh
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2007
            • 11841

            #6
            Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

            Originally posted by Twodogs
            The year of the underdog effect again.
            Worth it
            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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            • Twodogs
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 27655

              #7
              Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

              Originally posted by hujsh
              Worth it

              It sure was. I wouldn't change a thing
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13235

                #8
                Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

                So you've got know where every player on the list is 365 days a year? Serious?
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66724

                  #9
                  Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

                  Originally posted by 1eyedog
                  So you've got know where every player on the list is 365 days a year? Serious?
                  Sounds abit stupid to me
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27655

                    #10
                    Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

                    Originally posted by 1eyedog
                    So you've got know where every player on the list is 365 days a year? Serious?
                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Sounds abit stupid to me

                    They are stupid rules. But they are the rules until we grow a spine and stand up to these unelected bullies who just love to tell people what they can and can't do.

                    I'm waiting for some help I can't stand to up to these thugs by myself.
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • 1eyedog
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 13235

                      #11
                      Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Sounds abit stupid to me
                      AFEL anti-doping policies vs management of doping breaches are bipolar. We're seen to be at the forefront of anti-doping until doping actually occurs, and then the AFEL's first and foremost action is to protect the brand with cover ups and delays.
                      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                      • Greystache
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9775

                        #12
                        Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

                        Originally posted by 1eyedog
                        So you've got know where every player on the list is 365 days a year? Serious?
                        Every player is subject to random testing in and out of competition. It's hard to test someone if you don't know where they are.

                        If you don't make it a compliance to state where you'll be 365 days a year (they actually nominate a time of day usually very early morning where they can be found) then players could go on an 8 week doping program during preseason interstate, come back and say oh yeah I was on holidays that's why I wasn't around to be tested but don't worry I didn't use any drugs trust me.

                        If the AFL ran the anti-doping program I've no doubt that's exactly how it would work- We don't want to catch you and you don't want to get caught, so if you're taking performance enhancing drugs stay at someone else's house and we'll just say we couldn't locate you to test. Then when you're clean be at home and we'll test you then. 100% clean tests record- and the AFEL announce to the world the AFL is the cleanest sport on the planet. It would be beyond insane.
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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13235

                          #13
                          Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

                          Originally posted by Greystache
                          Every player is subject to random testing in and out of competition. It's hard to test someone if you don't know where they are.

                          If you don't make it a compliance to state where you'll be 365 days a year (they actually nominate a time of day usually very early morning where they can be found) then players could go on an 8 week doping program during preseason interstate, come back and say oh yeah I was on holidays that's why I wasn't around to be tested but don't worry I didn't use any drugs trust me.

                          If the AFL ran the anti-doping program I've no doubt that's exactly how it would work- We don't want to catch you and you don't want to get caught, so if you're taking performance enhancing drugs stay at someone else's house and we'll just say we couldn't locate you to test. Then when you're clean be at home and we'll test you then. 100% clean tests record- and the AFEL announce to the world the AFL is the cleanest sport on the planet. It would be beyond insane.
                          So Ryan Griffen is pig shooting between xxx co-ordinate and yyy co-ordinate over the next 4 weeks and the AFEL want to test him within that window??? Does he need a sat phone to ring in his co-ord every day or a GPS plugged into the servers at GWS to facilitate the test? Sounds like parole for the player and a micro-management disaster for clubs.

                          No wonder seven teams just got nailed a few k each.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7471

                            #14
                            Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

                            Originally posted by 1eyedog
                            So Ryan Griffen is pig shooting between xxx co-ordinate and yyy co-ordinate over the next 4 weeks and the AFEL want to test him within that window??? Does he need a sat phone to ring in his co-ord every day or a GPS plugged into the servers at GWS to facilitate the test? Sounds like parole for the player and a micro-management disaster for clubs.

                            No wonder seven teams just got nailed a few k each.
                            It's an interesting one about being off grid. I just spent 4 days with absolutely no phone access.

                            I'm sure they have provisions for these kinds of things.

                            Not sure we could find out exactly what detail needs to be given and how granular that detail needs to be. Things like holidays would certainly have to be accounted for.

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27655

                              #15
                              Re: 7 Clubs (inc. WBFC) fined for Anti-Doping Code Breach

                              Originally posted by Topdog
                              It's an interesting one about being off grid. I just spent 4 days with absolutely no phone access.

                              I'm sure they have provisions for these kinds of things.

                              Not sure we could find out exactly what detail needs to be given and how granular that detail needs to be. Things like holidays would certainly have to be accounted for.
                              It must come up from time to time. They would have a set of provisions about what to do in those circumstances.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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