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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66700

    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

    Originally posted by azabob
    Interestingly Nathan Buckley said Collingwood put up Pat Lipinski for all Australian selection this year.
    He is a worse judge than I thought
    FFC: Established 1883

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    • azabob
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 15304

      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

      Originally posted by bornadog
      He is a worse judge than I thought
      Buckley said COLLINGWOOD put him up for All Australian Selection.
      More of an In Bruges guy?

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66700

        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

        Originally posted by azabob
        Buckley said COLLINGWOOD put him up for All Australian Selection.
        Ok, they are a worse judge than I thought
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44634

          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

          Originally posted by azabob
          Interestingly Nathan Buckley said Collingwood put up Pat Lipinski for all Australian selection this year.
          The club obviously values his performances, good luck to him but he was struggling to hold a spot with us. It was a good move for him.
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          • hujsh
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2007
            • 11841

            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Ok, they are a worse judge than I thought
            It's probably more a statement of how team-reliant their performance is vs our more individual-reliant performance. They don't need individual brilliance to carry them over the line and have a team of players who all know their role and perform it. That means someone who statistically would be our 5th-7th best mid is someone they can nominate for AA honours.

            We rely on individual brilliance right now. Bont or Libba or Naughton need to stand up and carry our team over the line despite the deficiencies we have in structure/system and to a lesser extent personnel.
            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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            • whythelongface
              Coaching Staff
              • Jan 2007
              • 4487

              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

              Originally posted by hujsh
              It's probably more a statement of how team-reliant their performance is vs our more individual-reliant performance. They don't need individual brilliance to carry them over the line and have a team of players who all know their role and perform it. That means someone who statistically would be our 5th-7th best mid is someone they can nominate for AA honours.

              We rely on individual brilliance right now. Bont or Libba or Naughton need to stand up and carry our team over the line despite the deficiencies we have in structure/system and to a lesser extent personnel.
              Never really thought of us that way but I think you are right. We need more of that team ethos approach similar to 2016. Maybe with our newer generation coming through they form a tight bond - not only do they have star quality but more importantly work for each other in a team sense.

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              • angelopetraglia
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6840

                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

                I watched both Collingwood finals with interest. I thought he wasn't great in either. He had a few moments when in plenty of space where he used the ball well, but I also saw plenty of moments when the pressure was high that he either fumbled, didn't go hard enough or made poor decisions. This is exactly the issues that we had with him. When you are winning easily, he looks like a superstar. In a big pressure game when the pressure is high, he rarely stands up.

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                • WBFC4FFC
                  WOOF Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 396

                  Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

                  Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                  I watched both Collingwood finals with interest. I thought he wasn't great in either. He had a few moments when in plenty of space where he used the ball well, but I also saw plenty of moments when the pressure was high that he either fumbled, didn't go hard enough or made poor decisions. This is exactly the issues that we had with him. When you are winning easily, he looks like a superstar. In a big pressure game when the pressure is high, he rarely stands up.
                  2020 Finals against the Saints. Could not lay a tackle! That's not his game and he can play elsewhere on the field.

                  Bullies offered him a 3-yr deal don't forget.

                  Also, Lipinski going made it easier to get Darcy. Have to think of it in that context too.

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                  • G-Mo77
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9876

                    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

                    Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                    I watched both Collingwood finals with interest. I thought he wasn't great in either. He had a few moments when in plenty of space where he used the ball well, but I also saw plenty of moments when the pressure was high that he either fumbled, didn't go hard enough or made poor decisions. This is exactly the issues that we had with him. When you are winning easily, he looks like a superstar. In a big pressure game when the pressure is high, he rarely stands up.
                    He's been one of their best for most of the season and they've played in tight close contests for nearly the entire 2nd half of the season. If he was so poor he would have been dropped. He'd be perfect for us, wish we had managed to sway him to stay.

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                    • Bulldog Joe
                      Premiership Moderator
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5567

                      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

                      Originally posted by G-Mo77
                      He's been one of their best for most of the season and they've played in tight close contests for nearly the entire 2nd half of the season. If he was so poor he would have been dropped. He'd be perfect for us, wish we had managed to sway him to stay.
                      I am reliably informed that his decision to leave was based on Bevo and the reluctance to play him.
                      His season justifies the decision and I certainly don't believe he would have played every game if he had stayed with us.
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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 18959

                        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

                        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                        I am reliably informed that his decision to leave was based on Bevo and the reluctance to play him.
                        His season justifies the decision and I certainly don't believe he would have played every game if he had stayed with us.
                        He's a gun player.
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27654

                          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

                          Originally posted by WBFC4FFC
                          2020 Finals against the Saints. Could not lay a tackle! That's not his game and he can play elsewhere on the field
                          Played 2 finals with us and had 1 tackle in each. As you say we offered him 3 years and I'm not sure what else we could have done to convince him to stay.

                          I'm glad he had a good year but AA talk is a little over the top.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18959

                            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

                            Originally posted by Twodogs
                            Played 2 finals with us and had 1 tackle in each. As you say we offered him 3 years and I'm not sure what else we could have done to convince him to stay.

                            I'm glad he had a good year but AA talk is a little over the top.
                            Fourth for tackles at the Pies this season. Would've been fifth for us. Macrae 87 was fourth, Lipinski 83.
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10152

                              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

                              Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                              I am reliably informed that his decision to leave was based on Bevo and the reluctance to play him.
                              His season justifies the decision and I certainly don't believe he would have played every game if he had stayed with us.
                              He was always up against with our depth. He joined our list about 3-4 years too early based on where our core were at. Treloar trade and Bailey Smith being such a gun instantly didn’t help either.

                              Happy for Lipinski, right move for all involved.
                              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15304

                                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs - Patrick Lipinski

                                Originally posted by Twodogs
                                Played 2 finals with us and had 1 tackle in each. As you say we offered him 3 years and I'm not sure what else we could have done to convince him to stay.

                                I'm glad he had a good year but AA talk is a little over the top.
                                TD, you do realise it was his club Collingwood who nominated him for all Australian selection?
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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