Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Tristan Tweedie

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Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Tristan Tweedie

AFEL are looking at changing the whole rookie system, even getting rid of it.

Yep, but I'm curious as to how long we can keep him as Cat-B or otherwise not taking a formal spot. Even if they abolish the rookie list, the point of Cat-B is to bring in others who wouldn't ordinarily get drafted. Making a Cat-B count in an expanded list wouldn't be good as clubs wouldn't do it anymore. So I'm assuming it's 2 or 3 years that we could leave Tweedie in this category not impacting the main and/or rookie list before he gets cut, expires any time limit or can walk?.?.

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Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Tristan Tweedie

Yep, but I'm curious as to how long we can keep him as Cat-B or otherwise not taking a formal spot. Even if they abolish the rookie list, the point of Cat-B is to bring in others who wouldn't ordinarily get drafted. Making a Cat-B count in an expanded list wouldn't be good as clubs wouldn't do it anymore. So I'm assuming it's 2 or 3 years that we could leave Tweedie in this category not impacting the main and/or rookie list before he gets cut, expires any time limit or can walk?.?.

I guess with the uncertainty of the rookie list, I am saying who knows.

Assuming the current rules stay in place then:

Category B rookies[edit]

Each club is permitted to recruit up to three "Category B" rookies. Category B rookies are recruited directly rather than drafted, and represent players from non-traditional recruiting backgrounds. Players who may be recruited as Category B rookies include:[1]

• International players, who are neither Australian citizens nor residents
• Players from the New South Wales scholarship program
• Players from the International scholarship program
• Zone selections by Sydney and Greater Western Sydney from New South Wales or the ACT
• Zone selections by Brisbane Lions and Gold Coast from Queensland
• Players from other sports, who have not been registered with an Australian rules football club for three years

In the specific case of Irish international rookies, a club may have no more than one Irish Category B rookie at a time; but, the club is permitted to recruit other Irish players as Category A rookies, and may still recruit them directly without putting them up for draft.

List maintenance[edit]

Each club is allowed to maintain a list of up to six eligible Category A rookies and three Category B rookies. Up to three rookies can be retained, with the player's permission for a second or third season,[2] with the others having to be either delisted or elevated to the primary list at the time of the National Draft. Only half of the salary paid by a club to players on the rookie list counts towards the league's salary cap.

Generally speaking, a rookie-listed player cannot be selected to play in the senior AFL competition, and must play in state-level affiliated teams, except in two circumstances:

At the start of a season, a club can nominate up to two veterans from its senior list for salary cap reasons; if a team does not have a full quota of veterans, it can make up the balance by nominating rookies to be eligible for senior selection.
These players are known as nominated rookies.
If a senior-listed player is moved onto the long-term injury list, a rookie-listed player can be temporarily elevated in his place, becoming eligible for senior selection, while the senior player remains injured.

There are usually plenty of opportunities to enact one of these rules, so rookie-listed players who are playing well enough for senior selection are seldom deprived of the opportunity by list management constraints.

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Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Tristan Tweedie

They'll have to tweak the category B then if they simply expand the main roster by four rookie list spots. Either way, it seems the Cat-B still have the same time limits of 2/3 years before a decision must be made. With the composition of our current rookie roster, that's not an issue either way. It's vote of confidence in the kid to use a rookie spot and take on the wage for maybe a handful of VFL games in 2017.

[Twodogs]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Tristan Tweedie

They'll have to tweak the category B then if they simply expand the main roster by four rookie list spots. Either way, it seems the Cat-B still have the same time limits of 2/3 years before a decision must be made. With the composition of our current rookie roster, that's not an issue either way. It's vote of confidence in the kid to use a rookie spot and take on the wage for maybe a handful of VFL games in 2017.

I don't think we do technically. Cat-B rookies are extras to the list I think.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Tristan Tweedie

I don't think we do technically. Cat-B rookies are extras to the list I think.

English inelegant. Vote of confidence in Tweedie and his potential to use any mechanism to recruit him and also pay/take on his wages for just a handful of VFL games in 2017 at best.

[Twodogs]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Tristan Tweedie

English inelegant. Vote of confidence in Tweedie and his potential to use any mechanism to recruit him and also pay/take on his wages for just a handful of VFL games in 2017 at best.

Inelegant Englih? That's unpossible.

[Bornadog]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs: Tristan Tweedie

Inelegant Englih? That's unpossible.