Who would you have JMac target this year?

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  • bulldogsthru&thru
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • May 2011
    • 7706

    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

    I'd rather Kelly but would be happy with Lever

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 65964

      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

      Originally posted by anfo27
      Lever is a gun! Get it done JMac. They need mids & we have plenty.
      Who would you give up? Caleb Daniel to go home? You have to give up someone good to get someone good.
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      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • bulldogsthru&thru
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • May 2011
        • 7706

        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

        Please no to Daniel. We need to retain what good ball users we have

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        • S Coast Simon
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 348

          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

          Wouldn't mind joining Ben and Sam Reid at the doggies. That would be a fair addition to the line up. A couple of good years out of Ben and Sam can play a few more than that.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Who would you give up? Caleb Daniel to go home? You have to give up someone good to get someone good.
            They want Gibbs.
            We want Lever.
            JJ wants big bucks and will give us something good to trade with.

            Not sure why we'd put up another talented player, between our pick 10 and JJ, that's enough to get it done for both Lever & Gibbs. Everyone wins.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • dog town
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2007
              • 1896

              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

              Why would we trade JJ? We may strengthen our defensive stocks but we significantly weaken another area we are arguably even weaker in. We need to be getting in ball carriers/pace not shipping it off. I am all for getting Lever but we cant afford to lose any of our ball carriers or top midfielders to do it. That would just make another even bigger problem.

              Personally I would be looking to add some genuine quality to our mids or line breakers whether it is through trade or draft. That is costing us more than our back 50 personnel. Our defensive system relies on method more than personnel but at the moment they are not getting a chance to set up because our territory game is just not there.

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              • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 8882

                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                Originally posted by dog town
                Why would we trade JJ? We may strengthen our defensive stocks but we significantly weaken another area we are arguably even weaker in. We need to be getting in ball carriers/pace not shipping it off. I am all for getting Lever but we cant afford to lose any of our ball carriers or top midfielders to do it. That would just make another even bigger problem.

                Personally I would be looking to add some genuine quality to our mids or line breakers whether it is through trade or draft. That is costing us more than our back 50 personnel. Our defensive system relies on method more than personnel but at the moment they are not getting a chance to set up because our territory game is just not there.
                I don't think anyone is proposing trading JJ out of desire to move him on, more a realistic expectation that he is probably wanting to leave for a larger contract elsewhere. Whilst I'm sure most want JJ to re-sign, there comes a point where the rubber hits the road, and he either decides to recommit or we have to start making other plans.

                It's not in the club's interest to simply wait until trade week to find JJ announces he wants to go. That puts us behind the 8 ball, both in trade terms for JJ (think Hamling and the disadvantage we were in there with his late call to go) as well as possible player acquisitions.

                At some stage the impasse between what the club is offering and what JJ is asking for needs to come to a head and he needs to decide, so that the club can make forward plans, either including him or to position ourselves to extract the best outcome for the club.

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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10070

                  Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                  So if we have $1m or however much it is by the end of 2019 tied up in Boyd, and $850k tied up in Lever, how exactly are we going to match the offers that come in for Bont?
                  - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                  • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8882

                    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    So if we have $1m or however much it is by the end of 2019 tied up in Boyd, and $850k tied up in Lever, how exactly are we going to match the offers that come in for Bont?
                    I guess it depends on wage structures. We already have room in cap to heavily front load I would imagine. And i think Boyd's contract was heavily weighted in the front end. He will be 5 years into his 7 year deal when Bont's contract expires.

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                    • Bulldog4life
                      WOOF Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 9607

                      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                      Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                      I guess it depends on wage structures. We already have room in cap to heavily front load I would imagine. And i think Boyd's contract was heavily weighted in the front end. He will be 5 years into his 7 year deal when Bont's contract expires.
                      Looking into a crystal ball it will be interesting to see what Boyd's second contract will be.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                        Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                        Looking into a crystal ball it will be interesting to see what Boyd's second contract will be.
                        I think we will have to pay up because his first ended being a bargain.

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                        • Bulldog4life
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 9607

                          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                          With a number of players being brave enough to open up about their mental problems these huge payments to young players, still new to their craft, puts so much more pressure on them than ever before.

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                          • 1eyedog
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 13178

                            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            So if we have $1m or however much it is by the end of 2019 tied up in Boyd, and $850k tied up in Lever, how exactly are we going to match the offers that come in for Bont?
                            Murphy, Boyd and Morris gone this year. Picken will be gone the year the Bont talks open. Big funnel.
                            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                              Originally posted by 1eyedog
                              Murphy, Boyd and Morris gone this year. Picken will be gone the year the Bont talks open. Big funnel.
                              Cloke too next year. Plenty of room to move.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • always right
                                WOOF Member
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 4189

                                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                Cloke too next year. Plenty of room to move.
                                Isn't Cloke only on $200k?
                                I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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