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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27654

    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

    I wouldn't take Scott Thompson because he is a shitruck and always has been.

    But saying I wouldn't want such and such playing for my team because I don't like him or he upset me at some stage or he tries to hard to win for his team seems plain silly to me.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • KT31
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jul 2008
      • 5454

      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      I think we are still behind one other club but we are in with a chance
      And its Melbourne for @#$% sake, how can anyone find them more appealing over us ?
      It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 17903

        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

        Originally posted by KT31
        And its Melbourne for @#$% sake, how can anyone find them more appealing over us ?
        I know, seems ridiculous. They've been able to attract some good players recently (Hibberd, Lewis, Melksham to a lesser extent) while we continue to struggle. Who wouldn't want to play under Bevo?
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • Doc26
          Coaching Staff
          • Sep 2009
          • 3087

          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

          Originally posted by comrade
          I know, seems ridiculous. They've been able to attract some good players recently (Hibberd, Lewis, Melksham to a lesser extent) while we continue to struggle. Who wouldn't want to play under Bevo?
          Maybe those that aren't a new age type. With that said I'm not sure behind closed doors what style Goodwin brings. We do know that Macca can bring a hard edge approach.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 65963

            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

            Originally posted by KT31
            And its Melbourne for @#$% sake, how can anyone find them more appealing over us ?
            Chris Dawes
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 21542

              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

              Melbourne are clearly about to explode after their 11 year rebuild.
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • Bulldog4life
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 9607

                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                Originally posted by KT31
                And its Melbourne for @#$% sake, how can anyone find them more appealing over us ?
                A player who prefers playing at the MCG rather than Etihad regularly.

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27654

                  Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                  Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                  A player who prefers playing at the MCG rather than Etihad regularly.

                  That's a large part of it. Don't overlook how much playing in front of a huge crowd at the MCG (even Melbourne get big crowds-queens birthday, etc. out of ski season sometimes) can influence a players thinking.

                  Doesn't matter we will just catch and develop our own. Last year's batch of draftees look to be better prospects than 99% of players you would typically draft in anyway. Would any club in its right mind trade a prospect like Lewis Young for the pick we got him for? Or Patrick Lipenski? And we get to school them our way from year one.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • kruder
                    Coaching Staff
                    • May 2011
                    • 3768

                    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                    Trengove reportedly wanting 2.2m over 4 years,that's a massive risk for a player who finished the year in the reserves. I don't see us winning the flag next year with the demographic we have so I see no point paying massive overs unless the player is a best 22 lock. One things for sure there are many tall players in the AFL that get overs. I'd offer max 3 year deal 1.3 mill take it or leave it.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44190

                      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                      Originally posted by kruder
                      Trengove reportedly wanting 2.2m over 4 years,that's a massive risk for a player who finished the year in the reserves. I don't see us winning the flag next year with the demographic we have so I see no point paying massive overs unless the player is a best 22 lock. One things for sure there are many tall players in the AFL that get overs. I'd offer max 3 year deal 1.3 mill take it or leave it.

                      It's a really interesting point you raise and one I've been leaning towards. Unless the club strongly believes it can bounce back into serious contention soon then trading for high profile players or even chasing restricted free agents too aggressively probably isn't worth it and we would be better copping our whack for another season or two.

                      Still 2M over 4 years isn't that much nowadays. If we chase both him and Martin it would signal to me that the club is serious about it's chances next season
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27654

                        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                        Without being delusional about it we have to believe we can bounce back. Surely if we plan and prepare to fail then we will fail.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21542

                          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                          I think $550K p.a. is probably around the mark for Trengove. Not sure about four years, but it's a sellers market out there - especially when it comes to tall players who can play a few different roles.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44190

                            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                            Originally posted by Twodogs
                            Without being delusional about it we have to believe we can bounce back. Surely if we plan and prepare to fail then we will fail.

                            It comes down to the attitude of the playing group. If there is genuine hunger to get back to a level we are more than capable of then we should chase players to help that endeavor along. If we think there is going to be another year or two of resting on the premiership laurels then we need to be prepared to cop our whack again so chasing players probably isn't worth it.

                            We won two flags in 2016 and we put up a very shitty defense in 2017 and there has to be some reasons for that. If we are still comfortable enough with the 2016 flag and really don't quite have the hunger yet then we shouldn't chase players for 2018.
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • Bulldog4life
                              WOOF Member
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 9607

                              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                              Originally posted by kruder
                              Trengove reportedly wanting 2.2m over 4 years,that's a massive risk for a player who finished the year in the reserves. I don't see us winning the flag next year with the demographic we have so I see no point paying massive overs unless the player is a best 22 lock. One things for sure there are many tall players in the AFL that get overs. I'd offer max 3 year deal 1.3 mill take it or leave it.
                              He is currently on $600,000 a year.

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                              • boydogs
                                WOOF Member
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 5842

                                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                                Even under the new salary cap, $500k+ is silly for Trengove. Should be on Suckling wages, $1m over 3 plus 20% cap increase
                                If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                                Formerly gogriff

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