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  • kruder
    Coaching Staff
    • May 2011
    • 3768

    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

    Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
    Not to stir things up but did we cool on Lever because we got Schache to commit?
    He is contracted the big question is what is he worth? Can he handle the pressure of a big move to a Melbourne club and the expectations that come with it?

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    • kruder
      Coaching Staff
      • May 2011
      • 3768

      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Could be interesting going on the rumour mills...

      Dogs: Schache, Martin & Rockliff (FA), Pick 18 & 36.
      Lions: Pick 2 (FA), Pick 9 & 26 & 39, plus Crameri

      Lions: Pick 2, 9, 14, 26, 39 with Callenden an academy pick, plus Crameri (Honey or Hamilton if they wanted them)
      Dogs: KPF, Ruck, classy midfielder - Pick 18 getting a solid defender or mid. Pick 36 then no picks inside 80 though.

      Trade period over.
      I need to digest that fair effort! Richmond were the front runners last year can they afford him now? The other thought I just had would be imagine the irony of Rockliff and Schache moving to the same club considering how outspoken Rockliff was against players wanting to go home. ha!

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15195

        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

        Not a bad effort BT. You know my thoughts on trading early picks - I much prefer to hit the draft. But if we got pick in the top 20 in return that would be a good outcome.
        Do you rate Schache?
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

          Originally posted by azabob
          Not a bad effort BT. You know my thoughts on trading early picks - I much prefer to hit the draft. But if we got pick in the top 20 in return that would be a good outcome.
          Do you rate Schache?
          My best guess is that he will come good. A politician's answer I know. From a far it looks a bit like the Cam McCarthy situation. So maybe near home and family, he can get back to doing what he's good at. I'd love to see him team with Tom Boyd, and even a year training/playing with a proven gun like Cloke might do wonders from him and his development.

          Interesting that so many rumours so far involve Brisbane players.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Sedat
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2007
            • 11107

            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            My best guess is that he will come good. A politician's answer I know. From a far it looks a bit like the Cam McCarthy situation. So maybe near home and family, he can get back to doing what he's good at. I'd love to see him team with Tom Boyd, and even a year training/playing with a proven gun like Cloke might do wonders from him and his development.

            Interesting that so many rumours so far involve Brisbane players.
            If we do go after Schache, where does that leave Red? Or Tom Boyd? Let alone Cloke and Crameri. What about Adams and Roberts? Where does Roughy end up if we get Martin?

            I'm worried that we are trading too tall and not focusing on an area of our list that is a little overrated and lacking depth in quality, namely our midfield.
            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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            • bulldogsthru&thru
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • May 2011
              • 7706

              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

              Originally posted by Sedat
              If we do go after Schache, where does that leave Red? Or Tom Boyd? Let alone Cloke and Crameri. What about Adams and Roberts? Where does Roughy end up if we get Martin?

              I'm worried that we are trading too tall and not focusing on an area of our list that is a little overrated and lacking depth in quality, namely our midfield.
              How do we get Josh Kelly?

              I'd prefer to hit the draft with pick 9 so long as we are confident we can get what we want with that pick. I feel Stephenson, who is the type we need, will be gone by our pick.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                Could explain why we haven't offered Crameri a contract as yet and Cloke speculation about retiring a year early.

                Rockcliff at 800k a year just doesn't interest me in the slightest to be honest.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65964

                  Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                  Originally posted by Jaytee
                  Rockcliff at 800k a year just doesn't interest me in the slightest to be honest.
                  I agree, we need some real pace in the midfield, some outside run, someone that can kick the ball.
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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27654

                    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    Could be interesting going on the various/numerous rumour mills...

                    Dogs: Schache, Martin & Rockliff (FA), Pick 18 & 41
                    Lions: Pick 2 (FA), Pick 9 & 26 & 39, plus Crameri (plus any extra draft points we can acquire, or we'd lose the Pick 41)

                    Lions: Picks 1, 2, 9, 14, 26, 39 with Callenden an academy pick, plus Crameri (Honey or Hamilton if they wanted them)
                    Dogs: KPF, Ruck, classy midfielder - Pick 18 getting a solid defender or mid. Pick 41 then no picks inside 80 though. Rookie upgrades?

                    Trade period over.
                    What out of that are we giving them? 9/26 and Crameri for Martin and Schashe and pick 18?
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      What out of that are we giving them? 9/26 and Crameri for Martin and Schashe and pick 18?
                      I merged the rumours into a trade.

                      Crameri - Martin (through Collingwood with Cox) - A little under, but FA compo helps
                      Pick 9 - Schache - Same, a little under, but FA compo helps
                      Picks 26 & 39 - Pick 18 (good draft points trade for them with the kid Callenden)
                      (FA) Rockliff offered a deal to ensure they get pick 2 - Rockliff

                      Just put the rumours in a bowl, mixed, and tried to see what it looked like. We'd have pick 18 in this scenario still, so we could add that to a player or future second rounder and go for a midfielder.

                      Sedat, good point. Maybe it's time for some talls to go.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Cyberdoggie
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 2859

                        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                        What about JMac himself being out of contract, I think that would be the number 1 signing now.

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                        • chef
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 14562

                          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                          I think it's pretty obvious JMac is leaving.
                          The curse is dead.

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                          • always right
                            WOOF Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 4189

                            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                            Don't get the fascination with Schache. Soft with zero aggression. If he wasn't a high draft pick no-one would ever raise his name.
                            I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44190

                              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                              Originally posted by Sedat
                              If we do go after Schache, where does that leave Red? Or Tom Boyd? Let alone Cloke and Crameri. What about Adams and Roberts? Where does Roughy end up if we get Martin?

                              I'm worried that we are trading too tall and not focusing on an area of our list that is a little overrated and lacking depth in quality, namely our midfield.
                              In my opinion we can't go for both Martin and Schache it has to be one or the other. We have other needs
                              I'd also think the AFL will be watching the Rockliff departure/destination closely and if there are any other trades with the Lions and the club Rockliff goes to that seems to have factored in the compensation pick then I think they could easily rule a line through it.

                              As much as they want Brisbane to become viable the won't stump up overly generous compensation picks if they think clubs are diddling it.
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                              • Avoid the rush
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 125

                                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                                Originally posted by Remi Moses
                                Cox is shocking when the ball hits the ground as well .
                                So is Goldstein. So is Jacobs.

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