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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14861

    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

    A few journos going with Kelly signs with the Giants for 2 years if they don't win the flag, leaves if they do.

    Might be hard to get Kelly this year based on last night's performance.

    Shoot me, but if Stringer goes I'd be going at Geelong's FAs (Motlop & Menzel) and seeing what shakes loose. Menzel is Stringer-levels infuriating and Motlop's propensity to go missing in big games is a worry, but we didn't get to play big games this year and Motlop's best is outstanding.

    We get something for Stringer, get a player or two that helps soothe the loss, Trengove to shore up the back half and hit the draft where we have traditionally done far, far better than the trade table anyway.
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    • Topdog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7471

      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

      Originally posted by Mofra
      A few journos going with Kelly signs with the Giants for 2 years if they don't win the flag, leaves if they do.
      I'd be going the other way as a player

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      • always right
        WOOF Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 4189

        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

        Originally posted by Mofra
        A few journos going with Kelly signs with the Giants for 2 years if they don't win the flag, leaves if they do.

        Might be hard to get Kelly this year based on last night's performance.

        Shoot me, but if Stringer goes I'd be going at Geelong's FAs (Motlop & Menzel) and seeing what shakes loose. Menzel is Stringer-levels infuriating and Motlop's propensity to go missing in big games is a worry, but we didn't get to play big games this year and Motlop's best is outstanding.

        We get something for Stringer, get a player or two that helps soothe the loss, Trengove to shore up the back half and hit the draft where we have traditionally done far, far better than the trade table anyway.
        After watching Motlop tonight, would you still want him? And Menzel couldn't even get a game. Pass on both thanks.
        I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

          No to Motlop .

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 65964

            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

            Originally posted by always right
            After watching Motlop tonight, would you still want him? And Menzel couldn't even get a game. Pass on both thanks.
            Agree.

            Stevo reporting tonight Menzel has a one year contract in front of him and less pay
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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13178

              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

              Menzel is ok but he's no Jake Stringer. Footscray cannot continue to be a dumping ground for Geelong rejects.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 65964

                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                Jack Lonie confirms looking for a new home. Pretty sure someone mentioned they would be interested.
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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Jack Lonie confirms looking for a new home. Pretty sure someone mentioned they would be interested.
                  A certain moderator of ours will be petitioning the club.
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                  • dog town
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 1896

                    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                    Not sure if Lonie is the answer but we could do with some like him.

                    Watching the tigers last night only confirmed to me further that we lost our style this year. Pick a style of play and own it. We could certainly do with some pace and tackling to get back to our brand.

                    We need to stop flooding the list with mediocre talls. We went away from our brand this year trying to be something we are not. Lonie might not be the man but we need guys with leg speed who can close space quickly to defend and spread quickly to attack.

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                    • KT31
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 5454

                      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Agree.

                      Stevo reporting tonight Menzel has a one year contract in front of him and less pay
                      If I was him, soon as the siren sounded I would have ran straight of the ground and signed it before Geelong woke-up to themselves.
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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11107

                        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                        Originally posted by always right
                        After watching Motlop tonight, would you still want him?
                        Here is a list of spuds who played worse than Motlop last night - Kolo, Stewart, Parsons, Smith, Bews, Taylor, Mackie, Z Guthrie, C Guthrie, Menegola, Blicavs, Murdoch, S Selwood. I'm being kind to a few others. Mackie and Taylor obviously aren't career spuds but the rest of this list are.

                        I get amused by the amount of flack that Motlop gets as a player - he has obvious flaws but there are many players at Geelong in 2017 who are barely VFL standard.
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                        • Topdog
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7471

                          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          Here is a list of spuds who played worse than Motlop last night - Kolo, Stewart, Parsons, Smith, Bews, Taylor, Mackie, Z Guthrie, C Guthrie, Menegola, Blicavs, Murdoch, S Selwood. I'm being kind to a few others. Mackie and Taylor obviously aren't career spuds but the rest of this list are.

                          I get amused by the amount of flack that Motlop gets as a player - he has obvious flaws but there are many players at Geelong in 2017 who are barely VFL standard.
                          No one is suggesting to recruit any of the other. How much do you think it will cost to recruit Motlop and whose position in the team will he take?

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                          • Sedat
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 11107

                            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                            Originally posted by Topdog
                            No one is suggesting to recruit any of the other. How much do you think it will cost to recruit Motlop and whose position in the team will he take?
                            I'm not advocating we get him, just highlighting the fact that he is judged much more harshly as a player than others that are clearly worse. I can see why other clubs might be interested in him - young enough, great turn of pace, wins plenty of the ball, elite tank. But as has been rightly pointed out he has some telling flaws in his game - inconsistency, goes missing in big games, tries to do too much, takes low percentage options too often.
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                            • always right
                              WOOF Member
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 4189

                              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                              Originally posted by Sedat
                              Here is a list of spuds who played worse than Motlop last night - Kolo, Stewart, Parsons, Smith, Bews, Taylor, Mackie, Z Guthrie, C Guthrie, Menegola, Blicavs, Murdoch, S Selwood. I'm being kind to a few others. Mackie and Taylor obviously aren't career spuds but the rest of this list are.

                              I get amused by the amount of flack that Motlop gets as a player - he has obvious flaws but there are many players at Geelong in 2017 who are barely VFL standard.
                              Agree but no one was suggesting we trade for any of those. Getting Motlop would end up being another Justin Sherman type outcome.
                              I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21542

                                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                                Motlop's (and his ilk) a classic example of why forwards of small to medium size really struggle in big and tight games when those up the ground get found out for grit and class.

                                In the AFL there's not a lot of jobs easier than defending his type of flanker or pocket when your ground set up and team defence is working well. It's why forward pocket and forward flank are the hardest positions to play in the modern game.
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