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  • anfo27
    WOOF Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2002

    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

    Originally posted by Mantis
    How long do we give him to sort that side of his life out? If he isn't being a positive influence around the club at some point you have to cut your ties.

    How can you answer that? unless you're in the club you don't know if he is a positive influence on his team mates or a disruptive influence. I'd like to think we would exhaust all our options before we let go of someone of the ability of Jake & letting him go at 23 makes me think we aren't prepared to do that.

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15301

      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

      Originally posted by anfo27
      How can you answer that? unless you're in the club you don't know if he is a positive influence on his team mates or a disruptive influence. I'd like to think we would exhaust all our options before we let go of someone of the ability of Jake & letting him go at 23 makes me think we aren't prepared to do that.
      I go on things I hear and the message coming out Jake's end of season review (which he reportedly walked out on) was that he doesn't train hard enough, is often late to training & rehab appointments, and with his output well below we think he can reach means he probably isn't being the positive influence we hope he would be... There are also countless other rumours about his lifestyle choices, many which I take with a grain of salt, but if you hear the same thing often enough... and from different sources, then there must be some truth in it.

      I'm a lot older than Jake and possibly more mature, but I'm in the same situation that he's in with his family life and it isn't easy... but you have a responsibility to both your employer to perform your duties and to provide and support for your family and to just be a good dad... If Jake has a look in the mirror and ask those questions of himself I'm not sure he would be comfortable with the answer.

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      • Remi Moses
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 14785

        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

        Originally posted by anfo27
        So is thinking we'll be the winners in trading Jake.
        I'm sort of waiting how it pans out .

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

          Originally posted by anfo27
          Crap or not both are best 22 players. Fact! What did i expect? Wasn't expecting much but we got nothing! Biggs would have been delisted & 16 other clubs didn't even know who Biggs was.

          I personally think we are very ordinary at the trade table & teams rub their hands together when they know they are dealing with us.
          So you'd agree that we did well out of the Biggs deal ? Hamling was a delisted f/a( nobody wanted)
          Out of interest what was a good trade for Stevens and Hrovat ? Taking into account neither were getting senior games at the time .

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          • ledge
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2007
            • 14088

            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

            Originally posted by Mantis
            I go on things I hear and the message coming out Jake's end of season review (which he reportedly walked out on) was that he doesn't train hard enough, is often late to training & rehab appointments, and with his output well below we think he can reach means he probably isn't being the positive influence we hope he would be... There are also countless other rumours about his lifestyle choices, many which I take with a grain of salt, but if you hear the same thing often enough... and from different sources, then there must be some truth in it.

            I'm a lot older than Jake and possibly more mature, but I'm in the same situation that he's in with his family life and it isn't easy... but you have a responsibility to both your employer to perform your duties and to provide and support for your family and to just be a good dad... If Jake has a look in the mirror and ask those questions of himself I'm not sure he would be comfortable with the answer.
            I went through a separation and my kids were 5 and 10 at the time .. Certainly made me more responsible and to grow up. Yes separation is hard and hurts to the core but you take a look inside yourself and do the right thing.
            Has Jake ? It seems not.
            Bring back the biff

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

              I get the leeway given to him about his separation but that was long ago now and he had 6 months to mentally prepare for it before it was made public so as far as I'm concerned that'll do pig.

              He is a professional AFL player and it's about time he acted like it. From what I'm told if true he well and truly needs a good kick up the arse.

              I say we keep him, but be much tougher on him. I backing him to come good.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 65964

                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                Originally posted by Rooner
                I get the leeway given to him about his separation but that was long ago now and he had 6 months to mentally prepare for it before it was made public so as far as I'm concerned that'll do pig.

                He is a professional AFL player and it's about time he acted like it. From what I'm told if true he well and truly needs a good kick up the arse.

                I say we keep him, but be much tougher on him. I backing him to come good.
                What happens if he doesn't come good? How long do we give him? Or do we try and get a really good draft pick now that we can.
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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                  If he doesn't come good then it's because he doesn't want to. He is worth the punt to see his last year out and If he rates money highly then he definitely won't want another bad year on his resume.

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                  • Remi Moses
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 14785

                    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                    Originally posted by ledge
                    I went through a separation and my kids were 5 and 10 at the time .. Certainly made me more responsible and to grow up. Yes separation is hard and hurts to the core but you take a look inside yourself and do the right thing.
                    Has Jake ? It seems not.
                    Same here, and I've got two who were 9 and 12 at the time . It's tough,but kids are the priority. Jakes a lot younger than us,but he has a duty to his mates and club to do the right thing .

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                    • always right
                      WOOF Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 4189

                      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                      Regardless of where the fault lies my greatest concern is that we simply won't get a fair trade for someone who has enormous upside. Would much prefer our club to back itself to get the most out of Jake.....like Geelong did with Stevie J.
                      I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                      • ratsmac
                        Coaching Staff
                        • May 2009
                        • 3974

                        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                        Originally posted by Remi Moses
                        I'm sort of waiting how it pans out .
                        I'm with you. No point in listening to he said she said baseless rumours.
                        They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
                        Brian Fantana.

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                        • The Bulldogs Bite
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 11104

                          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                          Spencer delisted from Melbourne is a surprise to me and I would definitely like us to take a look, providing he checks out physically and in terms of his character - didn't he get suspended this year because of a misdemeanour?
                          W00F!

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                          • Remi Moses
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 14785

                            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                            No thanks .

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                            • bulldogsthru&thru
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • May 2011
                              • 7706

                              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                              Article on the herald sun saying Libba and Dahl no chance in leaving. Libba assured the club he'll return to preseason 2 weeks early and in elite condition. Club apparently happy with where it sits. Stringer still gone.

                              Link is behind paywall but easy to find. Who knew Tom Williams was managing Libba? Couldn't be in better hands surely?

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                              • Bullies
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 1807

                                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                                3AW just saying Jake and the club have agreed to part ways and to do the best deal possible. Won't get anywhere near what we should as clubs know it us trying to move him on.

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