The Case for Zaine Cordy

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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What i really like about Zaine is that in only a dozen games he's exhibited that he possesses that rarest and most valuable of trait of being able to step up on the biggest stage and not resile from the biggest and most important moments.
There were so many moments during the finals where he impacted a critical contest, or kicked an important goal.
I think he can play 12-15 games this year. More importantly, presuming we are still around deep into September again Bevo will have no doubt as to Zaine's bonafides inside the crucible that is finals footy.

[1eyedog]

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Possibly Dunkley to make way. Friday night against Collingwood is the game. I don't think Roberts can go with Moore so I'd play him on Jesse White (if he plays) or the American tall fella (if he plays) and Grundy if he rests forward. So it's Adams or Zaine on Moore. Morris shutting down the small/mid dangerous forwards (Sidebottom, Mayne etc). I'd like two options on more, so Adams & Zaine are my two. So I'd like Adams, Zaine & Morris with Roberts if they try to go tall. Adams & Zaine can play rebound footy so it's not like we are taking in too many slow immobile types. Wood & Bob given licence to attack, with runners rotating through the HBF too. If we have things in hand, Zaine can swing forward with a view to stretching their very inexperienced backline or shutting down their (attempting) intercepting marking defenders if they are impact the game. Zaine gives flexibility in defence if their talls are getting on top (we know Buckley likes playing numerous tall forwards), and the flexibility to go forward in an attacking or negating role within the game. Cloke & more so Crameri may need to blow out some cobwebs, so freeing them up to focus on attack and splitting their attention onto a negating role on Howe or back flankers might be advantageous. So I can see that Zaine in this particular game has a few scenarios in which he adds value. The question then is who misses out. Perhaps we can live without an extra inside mid like Dunkley. But with practice games to come, we will soon find out where everyone is. Who knows if we have other bolters coming out of pre seasons with Collins, English or other talls. So well soon see.

Yeah I think he offer the greatest flexibility of those listed; however Bevo has built prototype 'flexible' footballer hasn't he. McLean can play midfield / forward and so can Dunkley and Jong. If we need Cordy back it may even be Biggs who is up against it, but then we sacrifice run but this is an area we can cover in spades with Bob back.

For mine it will largely come down to preseason form, as it usually does leading into round 1. If he (or any or all of the players listed) have big preseasons it's going to be a tough decision making process. I think Cordy works his way into the team through a couple of early standout VFL performances, which he is perfectly capable of doing.We're going to find out in just over a month - couldn't come quick enough.

[Mofra]

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I'm a huge Zaine fan - some have knocked his kicking but I think he's actually a good kick under pressure which is the real test.

He does have a natural aggression which really helps him and if you watch his defensive work closely he has clearly worked with Morris a lot - he punches the ball as he uses his chest to hit the opponent which is how Morris is able to play on taller player.
I think he can be a genuine CHB for us - taller than Adams and genuinely aggressive and much quicker than Roberts as well so can play on the more mobile types.

Not sure if this is his year as he still fairly early in his development and long term I see him as a natural backman moreso than a 50/50 swingman but being able to pinch hit forward occasionally helps him too.
Being resigned to losing Adams at the end of the year and Morris is getting older Cordy is probably the only likely type able to play defence on the quicker opposition tall forwards on our list (2016 draftees excluded as we can't track their progress off half a pre-season).

[Twodogs]

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What Dradt was Zaine in? The same one as the Bont and Tom Boyd-2013 wasn't it?

[Bornadog]

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What Dradt was Zaine in? The same one as the Bont and Tom Boyd-2013 wasn't it?

2014, selection 62

Played 2 games in 2015 then the last 9 games in 2016, 4 of them finals and is only 20 years old

Also now listed as 193cm, grown 2cm.

[GVGjr]

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2014, selection 62

Played 2 games in 2015 then the last 9 games in 2016, 4 of them finals and is only 20 years old

Also now listed as 193cm, grown 2cm.

I think he is taller than 193cm he might be pushing 195cm

[merantau]

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Zaine is a very good player. The problem now is that we have many good players. I love problems.

[Mantis]

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Zaine is a very good player. The problem now is that we have many good players. I love problems.

Dale Morris is a very good player, Luke Dahlhaus is a very good player, Tom Liberatore is a very good player.. Zaine Cordy isn't anywhere near that level.

[Twodogs]

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Dale Morris is a very good player, Luke Dahlhaus is a very good player, Tom Liberatore is a very good player.. Zaine Cordy isn't anywhere near that level.

He's a premiership centre half forward. It doesn't get much better than that.

[Bornadog]

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Dale Morris is a very good player, Luke Dahlhaus is a very good player, Tom Liberatore is a very good player.. Zaine Cordy isn't anywhere near that level.

Has along way to go with a lot of potential. With only 11 games under his belt, he is still to prove himself.

[GVGjr]

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He's a premiership centre half forward. It doesn't get much better than that.

You can't keep using that line to explain things

[Twodogs]

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You can't keep using that line to explain things

I guess my point is he was sent out in a GF to play an important job at CHF and did a pretty good job. He kicked two goals, took his opponent away from the play when required, contested hard when he got a chance and really tested a couple of their blokes with bone crunching tackles that neither emerged well from.

I'm sure that like me BT had Zaine pretty high up in his Norm Smith votes.

[bulldogtragic]

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I guess my point is he was sent out in a GF to play an important job at CHF and did a pretty good job. He kicked two goals, took his opponent away from the play when required, contested hard when he got a chance and really tested a couple of their blokes with bone crunching tackles that neither emerged well from.

I'm sure that like me BT had Zaine pretty high up in his Norm Smith votes.

High? The tall guy that got robbed was Zaine wasn't it? Huge tackles to start the game, hurt his opponents, set the tone, key touches too, first goal. Best on.

His potential is huge, but he's got a while before he reaches it because there's still a lot of growth in his potential ceiling. I think the safest description on where Zaine is at is that he's achieved a shitload of good things in just 11 games, including 4 cut throat finals. If you plot his graph to date, the trajectory is looking as good as I hoped. But he needs to keep improving.

Martin Love's last innings for Australia was a century, Voges still averages over 60 for Australia and Brad Hodge (despite a double century) couldn't maintain his position in an elite team at their peak. We know who the best player was of the three but above them was slow starting players who came back like Hayden, Langer & Martyn. Zaine's challenge is to be a very good player, in a very good team, for a very long time. That's a long journey to get such plaudits, but he's started very well. And I look forward to seeing his journey with great satisfaction, especially if I can legally adopt him without his or his family's knowledge.

[Twodogs]

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High? The tall guy that got robbed was Zaine wasn't it? Huge tackles to start the game, hurt his opponents, set the tone, key touches too, first goal. Best on.

His potential is huge, but he's got a while before he reaches it because there's still a lot of growth in his potential ceiling. I think the safest description on where Zaine is at is that he's achieved a shitload of good things in just 11 games, including 4 cut throat finals. If you plot his graph to date, the trajectory is looking as good as I hoped. But he needs to keep improving.

Martin Love's last innings for Australia was a century, Voges still averages over 60 for Australia and Brad Hodge (despite a double century) couldn't maintain his position in an elite team at their peak. We know who the best player was of the three but above them was slow starting players who came back like Hayden, Langer & Martyn. Zaine's challenge is to be a very good player, in a very good team, for a very long time. That's a long journey to get such plaudits, but he's started very well. And I look forward to seeing his journey with great satisfaction, especially if I can legally adopt him without his or his family's knowledge.

I think everything you said is possible. Except the adoption thing, the last thing. You're not Madonna.

[Mantis]

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I guess my point is he was sent out in a GF to play an important job at CHF and did a pretty good job. He kicked two goals, took his opponent away from the play when required, contested hard when he got a chance and really tested a couple of their blokes with bone crunching tackles that neither emerged well from.

I'm sure that like me BT had Zaine pretty high up in his Norm Smith votes.

He kicked one goal and laid 2 good tackles early on, but he was largely ineffective and was out pointed by his opponents who by and large kept Sydney in the game.